Screwed on multi-firearm ppt ransfer? **updated**

[acepilot55]

I just finished a ppt for 2 handguns and 1 rifle at Fowler's Gun Room in Orange.

All 3 guns were from the same person (cousin's husband).

Fowler's charged me $35 for each one. $105 total. They told me CA law says you can no longer combine DROSes for ppt's.

I didn't want to waste my cousin's time by arguing (since they drove over an hour to me and still had to drive home). But I have a feeling it should have been $25 to the state and $10 per gun on the same DROS.

What's the correct way to have done it?


UPDATE 1

I just called Riflegear, Ade's and Turner's (Orange and Huntington). They all said that as of Jan 1 of this year, all guns must be on a separate DROS @ $35 each. I'll keep calling around, but it's looking like that's normal?

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UPDATE 2

Called Riflegear again, spoke to a different guy. He says it's one $25 fee. Looks like even they can't get it straight. Ammo Bros is next!

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UPDATE 3

Ammo Bros also says it's one $25 DROS fee and $10 per gun.

So, I'm not crazy...

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UPDATE 4

Went back to Fowler's and spoke with Larry, the manager on duty. He said the rifle had to be on its own DROS ($35), while the handguns had to be on a separate DROS ($45). I showed him the DOJ site that showed firearms weren't treated differently. He offered to refund me $25, so I took it and left.

[scoutpup99]

You are correct fowler was wrong.

[Red-Osier]

Got screwed, Sorry.

[Tovarish]

Same thing happened to me at OC Indoor Range. They insisted there was no way to combine them and charged me $35 per firearm.

Worst part of it is that the shop doesn't even keep the extra $50 they wrongfully charged you for. They just facilitated your donation to the state of California.

[sandiego67]

I just finished a ppt for 2 handguns and 1 rifle at Fowler's Gun Room in Orange.

All 3 guns were from the same person (cousin's husband).

Fowler's charged me $35 for each one. $105 total. They told me CA law says you can no longer combine DROSes for ppt's.

I didn't want to waste my cousin's time by arguing (since they drove over an hour to me and still had to drive home). But I have a feeling it should have been $25 to the state and $10-ish per gun (I know... "reasonable fee") on the same DROS.

What's the correct way to have done it?

It depends. Did you commit any felonies in the few minutes between each background check?

[ZombieLivesMatter]

Yeah just a clueless idiot that cost you $$$.

[DDM4556]

I just finished a ppt for 2 handguns and 1 rifle at Fowler's Gun Room in Orange.

All 3 guns were from the same person (cousin's husband).

Fowler's charged me $35 for each one. $105 total. They told me CA law says you can no longer combine DROSes for ppt's.

I didn't want to waste my cousin's time by arguing (since they drove over an hour to me and still had to drive home). But I have a feeling it should have been $25 to the state and $10-ish per gun (I know... "reasonable fee") on the same DROS.

What's the correct way to have done it?

As said above, you got screwed OP. Sorry.

Ever plan to go back there? If not, why not give them a call? See if they'll admit the mistake and if there's anyway they can rectify it... If what they did is technically illegal, maybe using such terms might light a fire..

May be a waste of time but if its not a store I frequent, I'd probably see what a phone call gets me.

[GOLDEN GUN]

Same thing happened to me at OC Indoor Range. They insisted there was no way to combine them and charged me $35 per firearm.

Worst part of it is that the shop doesn't even keep the extra $50 they wrongfully charged you for. They just facilitated your donation to the state of California.

Unless they are stealing the money and hitting the "submit another transaction for (name of customer)" button

[Jimmy's]

Whos shops at Fowlers anymore?

[heidad01]

Well, so far we know that Fowler and OC Indoor Range are cheats and/or idiots when it comes to PPT. Not acceptable in eithet case.

OP, sorry you got ripped off. You should have refused while there before signing and gone to anorher shop. There are plenty of decent FFLs in OC.

[acepilot55]

Thanks everyone for confirming.

I was pretty sure they were screwing something up, but I got the family discount on the guns so I won't lose any sleep over it.

Whos shops at Fowlers anymore?

..... You should have refused while there before signing and gone to anorher shop. There are plenty of decent FFLs in OC.

I would have gone to another store, but it was close to the 22 fwy entrance and my cousin was on a tight schedule. They'd already gone out of their way to meet me close to my house so I didn't want to waste their time driving to and waiting at another store.



Oh well, lesson learned!

I may call back and speak to the manager again, if not just to make sure they aren't just all clueless and/or prevent it from happening to anyone else in the future... or maybe I'll even call the DOJ if I'm feeling adventurous. Then again, if the DOJ gets free money on every DROS at that store, they probably won't care.

Y'all are a wealth of knowledge! Thanks again!

[Quiet]

Per CA DOJ BOF...

What fees can I charge for handling a Private Party Transfer (PPT)?

[acepilot55]

** updated **

see top post

[ZombieLivesMatter]

UPDATE 1

I just called Riflegear, Ade's and Turner's (Orange and Huntington). They all said that as of Jan 1 of this year, all guns must be on a separate DROS @ $35 each. I'll keep calling around, but it's looking like that's normal?

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UPDATE 2

Called Riflegear again, spoke to a different guy. He says it's one $25 fee. Looks like even they can't get it straight. Ammo Bros is next!

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Definitely not true as you figured out, I just did three stripped lowers on one DROS this past weekend.

[heidad01]

Definitely not true as you figured out, I just did three stripped lowers on one DROS this past weekend.

Most definitely.

If the FFL refuses to do that, He is playing stupid while trying to gouge you. Multiple items on the same dros with additional $10 for each extra has been around and still is at HONEST FFLS. Last month, I put a new one on top of my PPT on the same dros. Did not even have to mention it. The FFL said they both go on the same Dros.