Newb question from a newb

[jt1911]

I'm new to the board and to shooting in general and I'm a bit confused on some legal issues. I was looking into(code for: hoping to convince my wife) getting an XD 9mm and saw that the M's aren't legal here due to the new requirements. But I still see some up for sale through some online gun auction sites that can be shipped to here. So what's the deal? Can you buy a gun that can't be sold here( like the DE .50 or the XDM) from a private party outside of cali? Thanks for the help.

[ohsmily]

I'm new to the board and to shooting in general and I'm a bit confused on some legal issues. I was looking into(code for: hoping to convince my wife) getting an XD 9mm and saw that the M's aren't legal here due to the new requirements. But I still see some up for sale through some online gun auction sites that can be shipped to here. So what's the deal? Can you buy a gun that can't be sold here( like the DE .50 or the XDM) from a private party outside of cali? Thanks for the help.

If the gun is shipped in, it is not a private party transfer, it is a standard dealer transfer. At this point in time, (excluding some developments with non-rostered frames), you can't have a non-rostered frame shipped in. If someone in CA already owns the gun, you may buy it from that person via a PPT where you and the seller meet at the dealer and do the deal.

[Dr Rockso]

Except for transfers from immediate family members (parent/child, grandparent/grandchild), all interstate transactions are subject to the safe handgun roster.

If you really have to have an XD-M (or any modern handgun not on the roster):
-Buy it as a PPT from someone already in state (police officers, new residents, and individuals with immediate family out of state can import them).
-If you have a parent/child/grandparent/grandchild out of state, they can transfer one to you via an interfamilial transfer.
-Coming soon: Purchase the NRF (non-rostered frame) and parts kit, then assemble in state.

[jt1911]

Thanks for the replies.

So I guess then the sellers on places like Gunbroker who say they can ship certain guns to CA really don't know they can't.

Guess I'm up a creek. Don't have any immediate relatives( unless a cousin counts) that live out-of-state.

[Bug Splat]

Do a search for NERF on this board. Grab a coke and prepare to read for awhile. You may soon be able to get that gun after all.

[CHS]

Thanks for the replies.

So I guess then the sellers on places like Gunbroker who say they can ship certain guns to CA really don't know they can't.

They most likely have a blanket statement that says they'll ship to CA on all of their auctions.

However, there are still firearms that cannot be shipped into the state regardless. For handguns, if it's a modern semi-automatic it has to be on the roster. There is a workaround for this coming soon, but for right now, it has to be on the roster.

It is legal for that FFL to still send the gun in, FFL's here are allowed to receive firearms that are not on the roster, but they can only be transferred to LEO's or family transfers.

[eccvets]

what you gotta do is find a cop which is willing to help you out, have him buy the gun you want and then buy the gun from him.

[RedRocket]

hmm??

I had my hands on an XDM 9mm ("LE ONLY" said the dealer) If I were to PPT from a LE friend would I be able to keep the 19 round mags??

[ck867]

I had my hands on an XDM 9mm ("LE ONLY" said the dealer) If I were to PPT from a LE friend would I be able to keep the 19 round mags??

no. it would still be a 10 round limit

[JDay]

I'm new to the board and to shooting in general and I'm a bit confused on some legal issues. I was looking into(code for: hoping to convince my wife) getting an XD 9mm and saw that the M's aren't legal here due to the new requirements. But I still see some up for sale through some online gun auction sites that can be shipped to here. So what's the deal? Can you buy a gun that can't be sold here( like the DE .50 or the XDM) from a private party outside of cali? Thanks for the help.

Welcome to the forum. If a handgun is not on the CA roster you can not purchase it unless its a PPT, thats when you and the seller live in the same state and meet at a FFL to do the transfer. As for the auctions it is your responsibility to check applicable laws in your state prior to bidding. The .50 AE (what the Desert Eagle fires) is not banned in CA, only the .50 BMG is. If you were to buy a firearm from out of state is has to be shipped to your FFL at which point it becomes a dealer sale and not a PPT, it would not be exempt from the handgun roster then.

[ck867]

so can anyone confirm if we can have LE friends purchase the gun thats not on the list first and then do a ppt to us?

[CHS]

so can anyone confirm if we can have LE friends purchase the gun thats not on the list first and then do a ppt to us?

Yes. That's perfectly fine.

[jt1911]

Thanks for the all the welcomes and info. So since I have no out-of-state relatives, haven't seen anyone around who is selling a XDM, and have no buddies who are LE, it looks my only recourse is going the NeRF route. . .

So after poking around the board for a bit, let me see if I have this straight. To get a handgun like the XDM that is not on the roster I could buy the gun from someone out of state and have the frame shipped to a local gun store and then get the frame and have the frame registered as a handgun(?). Then I get the rest of the gun mailed to me directly and assemble it, no further registration needed and it's legal eagle? And I've been notice regarding this that there is a "coming soon" or "soon to be" type verbage regarding this process. Why is that? Thanks again for all the help. This site is great!

[CHS]

And I've been notice regarding this that there is a "coming soon" or "soon to be" type verbage regarding this process. Why is that? Thanks again for all the help. This site is great!

The legalities are being worked out.

Patience.

[Tetonman714]

PPT Question

I'm sorry if I'm beating a dead horse, but...
Let's say you do have a LEO buddy or you do have immediate family in a free state, both of whom would be willing to buy the XDM and PPT it to you. Fine -- but you can't use it with the only mags available at this time, correct?? That is, until SA or somebody comes up with a 10-rd mag, you can own the gun but not the mags?? What's the point? Or is my pea brain missing something? Thanks for any help in understanding this.