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These are arms seized by the government during various criminal investigations. After giving official notice (I think it is 3 notices) the seized arms are disposed of usually by destroying them unless they have significant historical or technical interest in that case they may be retained by the ATF reference vault. The series of notices allows interested parties to file suit to prevent the arms from being destroyed if they have a legitimate reason for doing so.
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Apparently most of the folks here aren't familiar with the scumbaggery being practiced at the ATF - where 'team building' keychains are bought to hand out internally, engraved with 'Always Think Forfeiture'. Where collectors and gun dealers are railroaded on teh least manufactured pretense, their entire inventories STOLEN, all in the attempt to bankrupt said dealers without ever having to prove any malfeasance in a court of law.
The Forfeiture proceedings require a short period of advertisement, at the conclusion of which the ATF can do whatever they want with the goods. The forfeiture laws only require advertisement as a reasonable means of contacting their legitimate owners. And meanwhile the clock is ticking and those being abused by the ATF must scramble to reclaim their property or force legal blockage of such a judicial theft.
Just google up what's been happening to Cav Arms in this regard.
People at the ATF involved in this garbage should lose their jobs at the very least.Comment
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If the victim filed with insurance company and received money for the stolen gun, then the gun no longer belongs to the victim. Which brings into a good question if your gun is stolen. Should you report to insurance and get paid, or not report to insurance and hope if it is ever found, you do get it back.Comment
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I'll trade them $250 worth of rebar for an FS2000, problem solved.
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Please read the Calguns Wiki
Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.
--Cesare, Marquis of Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishment"Comment
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Rayra is so on point on this and unfortunately seizure fever is a governmental agency disease that has infected not only the ATF, but other agencies on all levels of government.Quote:
Originally Posted by rayra
Apparently most of the folks here aren't familiar with the scumbaggery being practiced at the ATF - where 'team building' keychains are bought to hand out internally, engraved with 'Always Think Forfeiture'. Where collectors and gun dealers are railroaded on teh least manufactured pretense, their entire inventories STOLEN, all in the attempt to bankrupt said dealers without ever having to prove any malfeasance in a court of law.
The Forfeiture proceedings require a short period of advertisement, at the conclusion of which the ATF can do whatever they want with the goods. The forfeiture laws only require advertisement as a reasonable means of contacting their legitimate owners. And meanwhile the clock is ticking and those being abused by the ATF must scramble to reclaim their property or force legal blockage of such a judicial theft.
Just google up what's been happening to Cav Arms in this regard.
People at the ATF involved in this garbage should lose their jobs at the very least.
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