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  • brianm767
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2006
    • 2415

    Rattle Snake control recomendations?

    My son just returned from a deployment to Afghanistan, and while he was away, he and his wife bout a house with a few acres in the hills out side of Fresno.
    My daughter whos only 23 handles all of it, she did send him links on the web so he could see it.

    They have two small sons, ages 5 and 1, there are several places on their property which has granite boulders piles which looks like perfect Rattle Snake habitats as well as the rest of the property, my cousin who lives out side of Springville also had a lot of rattle snakes on his property in his first years there, but now its just an occasional one, he also has two small kids and his favorite tool for killing the snakes is a shovel.

    We understand the value of having these snakes around, both my son and law and my self our fans of snakes and have had several over our life times as pets, but with the little ones running around, if one is found in common use areas or close to the house, they will need to be dispatched.

    I know my daughter is not going to want to get close enough to use a shovel, they have .22 rifles, as well as an old .410 single shot. What's the preferred firearm for killing rattle snakes? a small caliber with snake shot? is that sufficient, or the .410, there are neighbors in the area, none in line of site of their property, but within a 1/4 mile, it may actually be over a 1/4 mile, not positive, but lets say it is legal to shoot, what would you use. I spoke to a neighbor who lives in the same area, he uses a .410 is that overkill?
    Last edited by brianm767; 02-15-2016, 2:58 PM.
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    Glocked@45
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    • Mar 2013
    • 1025

    22lr shot shells?

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    • #3
      desertjosh
      Calguns Addict
      • May 2011
      • 5749

      I've dispatched many with my 10/22 and snake shot. One shot kill most times. And if not, it wounds them bad enough where they just curl up for the easy 2nd shot. Good luck
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      • #4
        sofbak
        Veteran Member
        • Aug 2010
        • 2628

        Im not sure how a .22 shot shell would perform in a rifle. Additionally I have read that they don't feed well in a semi-auto action regardless of platform.

        I'd say stick to the .410-no doubt it will do the job.
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        • #5
          gc44
          Banned
          • Oct 2015
          • 279

          The kid next door got hit by a baby rattler a few yrs back. Local hospital couldn't handle it. Had to fly him from here to Children's Hosp in Oakland. Arm swelled up to the size of his thigh. Evidently, he was chasing a geko into a small bush, and that's when he got tagged. He didn't realize it, and thought he was poked by a sharp twig/branch. He told hid Granny 45 min later. He was 9. He was also very lucky.
          Ck the place out and look for sign- usually old skins, etc. Babies venom is the worst. Bite kits dont work well, but get a first aid book or other info for field treatment and keep it handy there. Suggest a Taurus "Judge"- a revolver that handles both 410 and 45LC. It'll take care of more than one kind of snake.....

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          • #6
            Garv the innocent
            RSG Minion, Senior
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Apr 2014
            • 9039

            Get some local species kingsnakes on the property.
            Originally posted by Kestryll:
            It never fails to amuse me how people get outraged but fail to tell the whole story in their rants....

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            • #7
              FeuerFrei
              Calguns Addict
              • Aug 2008
              • 7455

              Getting rid of rattlers or harvesting them?
              Snakes are great for getting rid of ground squirrels and gophers if they are a problem.
              If there's nothing to eat for the snakes then the population usually moves elsewhere.
              Snake tastes like chicken and are easy to clean.

              Otherwise snake shot for the squeamish or the shovel/blunt instrument technique.
              I get them to strike the shovel until they get tired and then perform the separation.
              Bury or burn the heads.
              Keep the rattles for training. Kids will learn what they sound like and know to avoid them until they're old enough to take care of the problem themselves.

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              • #8
                ZirconJohn
                Rattlesnake Hunter
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Sep 2007
                • 10351

                A .410 is not overkill - In most cases one would want to get it over with in ONE shot I would imagine. Now, in the case of .22 bird shot ... NOT enough in my opinion, especially if you have a BIG rattlesnake ... they are very hard to kill.

                And as you know, I don't have to explain ... rattlesnakes can/will still be able to bite and inject venom for up to an hour if you handle a severed head. So, one shot/one kill is highly recommended. Cut the head off 'secure it in metal' somehow and bury it so if dogs dig it up they won't get BIT!

                I don't kill rattlesnakes myself Sir, I hunt them for pictures and video ... I am a friend of the rattlesnake and a proponent of rattlesnake conservation. You can view my video's in the link below.

                You said you have little kids, and I would imagine you have pets as well ... maybe some livestock too. Well ... I do try and get people to relocate them rattlesnake critters ... but I also know that sometimes that is not entirely possible what with time constraints in raising a family and safety concerns when handling them for relocation.

                However, I would appreciate it, if for say every 4, 5, or 6 you do kill ... please look into relocating a few as well, they are good for the environment insofar as controlling vermin (mice, rat) population. In my YouTube Video Channel you will find video's on how to safely capture, contain, and relocate rattlesnakes.

                One more thing ... the rattlesnake is depicted on the Gadsden Flag. Why? - Because they FIGHT to the death for life, and Freedom. And whether rattlesnakes Pursue Happiness, or not ... I don't know, but maybe if you relocate a few ... you maybe might gonna see a rattlesnake smile your way when you let him go near some rocks several miles away

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                • #9
                  Capybara
                  CGSSA Coordinator
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Feb 2012
                  • 15419

                  G 44,

                  Unfortunately in their infinite wisdom, our evil overlords have legislated that the Taurus Judge is an illegal SBS in this state unless you jump through a lot of hoops and expense to build one as an AOW so that rules that or an S&W Governor out.

                  My FIL lives in Coarsegold and has a ranch. He killed 72 rattlers in 2015. They do like to hang out in those Granite boulders, Gopher holes and under hay bales. Same issue, we all know those rattlers are an important part of the ecosystem but he has grazing horses and cattle as well as ranch dogs so he has to take care of them unless they are in the back forty. He uses Ruger GP100 with snake shot in .38 SPL. Not sure .22 is the optimal choice simply because with that tiny amount of shot she would have to be accurate. The .410 would be a lot easier to make sure she kills it quickly. Also agree about .22 shot shells not cycling in a semi auto. Shotgun is a better tool for this task or a more powerful pistol IMHO.
                  Last edited by Capybara; 02-15-2016, 5:33 PM.
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                  • #10
                    Pinto
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 3063

                    When we moved up into snake country several years ago, my wife was a city girl scared of the crawly, slithery jumping, flying critters. Today she has no problem picking up a shovel, stick, broom, whatever to dispatch whatever she perceives as a threat. You will be surprised at how fast your daughter acclimates.

                    I fashioned several snares of old golf clubs and fishing line to move non-dangerous snakes. These and a shovel at each entrance take care of most critters. We also have a .22 for small rattlers and a .38 for larger ones with CCI shotshells. The shotshell do a good job at 10-12 ft without worry of stray rounds going off-property. .410 would work also but is a bit overkill and unwieldy when a revolver is good.
                    Last edited by Pinto; 02-15-2016, 3:29 PM.

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                    • #11
                      Bansh88
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 2500

                      I often question what's more dangerous, the Rattlesnake or the scared person trying to shoot at it?

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                      • #12
                        brianm767
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2006
                        • 2415

                        Originally posted by Garv
                        Get some local species kingsnakes on the property.
                        I love king snakes, from time to time I ketch one as well as gopher snakes on my property in clovis, for sure any of those we catch will be taken up there. I have to teach my daughter how to tell a gopher snake from a ratler.I 6 she and her husband both pretty much think a good snake is a dead snake but I talk to them both about the benefits of gopher snakes and king snakes I think they're coming around since now they live amongst them

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                        • #13
                          G-Man WC
                          In Memoriam
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 10991

                          If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin.
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                          • #14
                            brianm767
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2006
                            • 2415

                            Originally posted by ZirconJohn
                            A .410 is not overkill - In most cases one would want to get it over with in ONE shot I would imagine. Now, in the case of .22 bird shot ... NOT enough in my opinion, especially if you have a BIG rattlesnake ... they are very hard to kill.

                            And as you know, I don't have to explain ... rattlesnakes can/will still be able to bite and inject venom for up to an hour if you handle a severed head. So, one shot/one kill is highly recommended. Cut the head off 'secure it in metal' somehow and bury it so if dogs dig it up they won't get BIT!

                            I don't kill rattlesnakes myself Sir, I hunt them for pictures and video ... I am a friend of the rattlesnake and a proponent of rattlesnake conservation. You can view my video's in the link below.

                            You said you have little kids, and I would imagine you have pets as well ... maybe some livestock too. Well ... I do try and get people to relocate them rattlesnake critters ... but I also know that sometimes that is not entirely possible what with time constraints in raising a family and safety concerns when handling them for relocation.

                            However, I would appreciate it, if for say every 4, 5, or 6 you do kill ... please look into relocating a few as well, they are good for the environment insofar as controlling vermin (mice, rat) population. In my YouTube Video Channel you will find video's on how to safely capture, contain, and relocate rattlesnakes.

                            One more thing ... the rattlesnake is depicted on the Gadsden Flag. Why? - Because they FIGHT to the death for life, and Freedom. And whether rattlesnakes Pursue Happiness, or not ... I don't know, but maybe if you relocate a few ... you maybe might gonna see a rattlesnake smile your way when you let him go near some rocks several miles away

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                            Well I agree I would much rather have the snakes relocated but as you mentioned the practicality of my daughter being there with two kids there will be times it will have to be done I have a cousin who is a herpetologist I guess he's one of the guys you see on TV every 2 or 3 years who gets arrested for having all types of venomous snakes he was in the Fresno Bee once for being bitten by one almost losing an arm I believe that had to deal with rattlesnakes and Alcohol don't mix but I'm glad you brought it up cuz I didn't even think of him I only seen him once every 3 or 4 years but definitely I will have him get in touch with them and if he's available he would love to come up and catch him put it in his house along with his caymon and other things he's not supposed to have actually I don't know if he still has those but I think the last time he was arrested he did

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                            • #15
                              hoozaru
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 1712

                              forget firearms, just get a home depot broom handle and mount CS Bowie Bushman Knife. Cut the head, the rest will be a fine meal
                              Last edited by hoozaru; 02-15-2016, 3:44 PM.

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