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  • #31
    E Pluribus Unum
    Calguns Addict
    • Dec 2006
    • 8098

    Originally posted by freakshow10mm
    No, the police are not civiians.
    Yes, the police most certainly are civilians. Common defitions may include the police in non civilian status, but constitutionally, they are civilians, they have to be. The Posse Comitatus Act forbids the use of military forces on civilian populations off of federal lands.

    By definition, the police force has to be civlian in nature. A police officer is a job, nothing more, nothing less. While it may be a noble job, no one can force another to be a police officer.
    Originally posted by Alan Gura
    The Second Amendment now applies to state and local governments. Our lawsuit is a reminder to state and local bureaucrats that we have a Bill of Rights in this country, not a Bill of Needs
    Originally posted by hoffmang
    12050[CCW] licenses will be shall issue soon.

    -Gene
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    • #32
      Jonathan Doe

      Originally posted by Booshanky
      What line of work are you in?
      I would say I work for a local government and handle a lot of guns from various sources. Some Calguns members have toured my office after FTF transaction and so far everyone liked it.

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      • #33
        aplinker
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Feb 2007
        • 16762

        Originally posted by freakshow10mm
        No, the police are not civiians.


        I seriously doubt that 922 r will change in my lifetime. I hope I'm wrong.
        It's easy to get around 922r, but it's hard to get around '86.

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        • #34
          freakshow10mm
          Veteran Member
          • Jun 2008
          • 3061

          Originally posted by E Pluribus Unum
          Yes, the police most certainly are civilians. Common defitions may include the police in non civilian status, but constitutionally, they are civilians, they have to be. The Posse Comitatus Act forbids the use of military forces on civilian populations off of federal lands.
          Constitutionally, the soldiers are also civilians. However in the real world using definitions, the police are not civilians.

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          • #35
            freakshow10mm
            Veteran Member
            • Jun 2008
            • 3061

            Originally posted by uclaplinker
            It's easy to get around 922r, but it's hard to get around '86.
            I meant 922 0, not 922 r. That was a mistake on my part. I edited the original to reflect.

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            • #36
              19114me
              Member
              • Oct 2008
              • 142

              Originally posted by Mac Attack
              I know lots of people back in GA who own FA and I have shot most of them. There are few ranges where you can rent FA's as well.

              They are fun to shoot and with a little practice you can be very accurate with controlled bursts. I actually almost bought a FA Vector Uzi with a gemtech suppressor that my dealer had for $5000 but talked myself out of it. The dealer ended up selling the combo for $7500 a few months later.

              FA are cool but the entry costs are high and getting higher. The coolest one I shot was a belt fed M2. Belt feds rock!

              BTW, FA are legal for civillians in many states. Unfortunately, not in CA.
              You echo my thought in that a full-auto is also an investment. They have been going up in price for many years now...it's a solid investment, and a fun one.
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              • #37
                goathead
                Veteran Member
                • Mar 2008
                • 3601

                fire all ,,,m16, M4, 240, 249, mk19,m9, M1a1 120MM, M2 50cal, ak47, call in battery of 155mm,

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                • #38
                  nooner
                  Member
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 184

                  Originally posted by E Pluribus Unum
                  I take the stance that the second amendment guarantees the civilian's right to own whatever the military soldiers are allowed to carry in battle. Many will differ from me in that opinion. At the very least one must see that the second amendment guarantees my right to carry anything my local police department is allowed to carry.
                  I agree 1000%.

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                  • #39
                    Jonathan Doe

                    Originally posted by ddiaz792310
                    fire all ,,,m16, M4, 240, 249, mk19,m9, M1a1 120MM, M2 50cal, ak47, call in battery of 155mm,

                    I pretty much fired all the listed firearms with exception to the cannons which I have called for fire missions when I was in the service. It is pretty awesome to see from the OP when they fire for effect, maybe 20 to 30 rounds of HE and WP rounds.

                    Anyways, I beleive in self protection. CCW should be issued to the ones who qualify. We should be able to get guns that we like.

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