Upgrading your glock with ZEV

[vliberatore]

Neat. But I wouldn't pay for it.

I've never shot a gun and thought, "man, if only I could completely rebuild this gun it would be so much better". If I did, I'd just buy another gun.

That's how I feel about my M&P.

It's also why I'm selling my M&P.

[that one guy]

sure, here is one i just took of my 34. the 17 is being cerakoted to match. as you can tell, i got the frame back from zev and proceeded to F it up myself with stippling. my later stipple jobs look much better.



i like the zev triggers a lot. i think they are better than apex's offerings.

i have tried pretty much every glock trigger on the market and settled on zev. that being said, i just got my new mcnally trigger for the 17 so i will demo that one soon.

http://www.mcglock.com/

Thank you. One more question. On the link I provided and you having a Zev. Does the slide they provide can I add rear sights along with the Rmr?

[deckhandmike]

Wow, I'd pay more to turn my glock back to stock. The trigger is fine. Maybe some talon grips and better sights is all a glock needs. It's kinda like putting lipstick on an ak.

[ar15barrels]

Thank you. One more question. On the link I provided and you having a Zev. Does the slide they provide can I add rear sights along with the Rmr?

The slide in the link in the first post of this thread has a block installed into the RMR cut which holds the rear sight.
In order to put the RMR on the slide, you remove that block and the rear sight.
A rear sight behind the RMR would be absolutely useless as the RMR would completely block it.
You would need some crazy tall suppressor sights if you wanted to be able to see the irons through the optic sight...

[TurboS600]

Why would you put a $900 upgrade on a $450 gun?

That would be like buying a Pinto and putting a $5000 rims/wheels package on it. Before I would put that kind of coin on the ZEV I would purchase another Glock and put trigger and spring mods on both of them.

[NYT]

The slide in the link in the first post of this thread has a block installed into the RMR cut which holds the rear sight.
In order to put the RMR on the slide, you remove that block and the rear sight.
A rear sight behind the RMR would be absolutely useless as the RMR would completely block it.
You would need some crazy tall suppressor sights if you wanted to be able to see the irons through the optic sight...

everything AR15 said is correct with the exception of there being no use for a rear sight. absolute co-witness sights are a must in my opinion as you dont want to get caught with a dead battery in your rm06.

op, i personally wouldnt buy that kit from brownells. its a bit cookie cutter and you may want something custom if youre going to spend the cash. if you end up using an rmr, using that kit, there will be no absolute co-witness rear sight.

the rmr red dot or amber or green whatever sits slightly above the co-witness front sight.

here are some pics of my first 34 slide.





talk to daniel or zack, both guys are really friendly and extremely helpful. they dont want you to spend money on something you wont like.

[NYT]

Why would you put a $900 upgrade on a $450 gun?

That would be like buying a Pinto and putting a $5000 rims/wheels package on it. Before I would put that kind of coin on the ZEV I would purchase another Glock and put trigger and spring mods on both of them.

lol, i own more than 10 glocks, the op may have a few as well.

a colt 1911 can be had for around $500, a custom 1911 fetches up to ten times the cost of that bottomline colt.

lets face it, some people have the money to modify their firearms the way they want. others just talk about what they would do if they had the extra spending cash.

[floogy]

lol, i own more than 10 glocks, the op may have a few as well.

a colt 1911 can be had for around $500, a custom 1911 fetches up to ten times the cost of that bottomline colt.

lets face it, some people have the money to modify their firearms the way they want. others just talk about what they would do if they had the extra spending cash.

Where's this Colt 1911 for $500? I want names!

[nedro]

Neat. But I wouldn't pay for it.

I've never shot a gun and thought, "man, if only I could completely rebuild this gun it would be so much better". If I did, I'd just buy another gun.

NO, you can't.
You can not buy a stock gun anywhere near the type of machine you get with a ZEV trigger. And it's lame to even suggest it.
You could go out and buy every non custom gun on Earth and you won't get even one of them to be as smooth.
Like the saying goes, "You don't know what you don't know".
And for folks that think like you, you're all probably better off staying in the dark. Some people are more comfortable residing there.

[glockman19]

NO, you can't.
You can not buy a stock gun anywhere near the type of machine you get with a ZEV trigger. And it's lame to even suggest it.
You could go out and buy every non custom gun on Earth and you won't get even one of them to be as smooth.
Like the saying goes, "You don't know what you don't know".
And for folks that think like you, you're all probably better off staying in the dark. Some people are more comfortable residing there.

Are you saying that you can out shoot a stock Glock with only a 3.5# trigger because the trigger is so much better on the ZEV?

[nedro]

Nope! I'm saying you can not get a nicer smoother trigger from a non custom stock striker fired gun.

[ar15barrels]

You can not buy a stock gun anywhere near the type of machine you get with a ZEV trigger.

Let me get this right, a CUSTOM gun is better than a STOCK gun?

[glockman19]

Nope! I'm saying you can not get a nicer smoother trigger from a non custom stock striker fired gun.

Where does the ZEV trigger break? Pounds/Pull? How does it compare to a 3.5# specifically and technically? What is the difference in specifications?

Unless the modification improves accuracy it's unnecessary IMHO.

The only modifications I've made to my Glock 19 are 3.5# trigger, night sights, mag well plug. The Night Sights and Trigger increase accuracy and follow up shots. The mag well plug is cosmetic. I practice with an Advantage Arms .22lr and only paid $220.

I have made no modifications to my Glock 26 because I carry it.

The key to accuracy will always be practice, practice, practice.

I'll stand by my first post in this thread...

[nedro]

Let me get this right, a CUSTOM gun is better than a STOCK gun?

No kidding!
Amazing that it actually has to be said.
And glockman, do you see your two contradictions in your last post?
Btw, I wasn't challenging your statement. I was just stating a fact.

[NYT]

Where does the ZEV trigger break? Pounds/Pull? How does it compare to a 3.5# specifically and technically? What is the difference in specifications?

Unless the modification improves accuracy it's unnecessary IMHO.

The only modifications I've made to my Glock 19 are 3.5# trigger, night sights, mag well plug. The Night Sights and Trigger increase accuracy and follow up shots. The mag well plug is cosmetic. I practice with an Advantage Arms .22lr and only paid $220.

I have made no modifications to my Glock 26 because I carry it.

The key to accuracy will always be practice, practice, practice.

I'll stand by my first post in this thread...

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people who have a lot of time into glocks know that the "ghost or 25 cent mod" 3.5 pound pull isnt always 3.5 pounds, it varies. this lower cost mod along with springs will get you to around where you want your pull to be but the trigger reset sucks and isnt nearly as crisp and clean as an aftermarket trigger. the zev fulcrum trigger is adjustable with a crisp, clean reset and break. not mushy like other mods.

Where's this Colt 1911 for $500? I want names!

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=535377953