citations being issued at spenceville range

[golfish]

I did go out to Spenceville today, and besides the "shooting only clay and paper targets", sign.......this is what is on the board.
yes the "no lead" sign, pertains to hunting, but I am also researching what all the codes that are grouped together at the bottom.
there is more to the story.......let's see what response I will get back to post.

(Mangan range in Sacramento was recently shut down for good, due to the high lead throughout the facility)

Geeez, why don't they just put up a sign that reads NOTHING IS ALLOWED

[nine mil thrill]

mike, you are an idiot.....did you not read the post ?? I said.....it refers to hunting.....BUT, it also includes "eco" areas, and I am trying to find out if there is anything in the list of codes posted. the **** that is in small print, is what we need to be concerned about.

[mike415stone]

mike, you are an idiot.....did you not read the post ?? I said.....it refers to hunting.....BUT, it also includes "eco" areas, and I am trying to find out if there is anything in the list of codes posted. the **** that is in small print, is what we need to be concerned about.

Personnel insults, it's down to that low a level. Why not try insulting my mom while your at it.

[nine mil thrill]

ok....what is her first name...??

[mike415stone]

ok....what is her first name...??

What are you... like 5 years old or something?

[Pardini]

If a law can be misapplied for a political agenda, California is the place that will surely try it. Fight any such citation and shove it back up their keesters.

LOL. You do know that the study results were withheld until after the Bill was signed and it indicated that the lead levels in Condors were due to some other source than lead bullets.

[Cokebottle]

"No longer allowed FOR hunting on any Wildlife Area OR Ecological Preserve"

Converting it to math:
"No longer allowed FOR hunting on any (Wildlife Area OR Ecological Preserve)"

Requirement #1 to apply, for hunting.
Requirement #2 to apply, Wildlife Area or Ecological Preserve

If you are not hunting, the ban does not apply.
If you are not in a Wildlife Area or Ecological Preserve, the ban does not apply.

Lead is not banned for target shooting.

[NapalmCheese]

Poison is going to get real popular. I bought a box of the CCI nontox stuff and tested it. To call it disappointing is a under statement and at almost 10 bucks per box of 50 it's a bit pricey, as I said poison is going to make a big come back.

Until coyotes and vultures start dying from that. Then poison will be more regulated and only state licensed poisoners will be allowed to kill the ground squirrels on your ranch.

[nine mil thrill]

Click on the link below, scroll down to FAQ's and select What about target shooting or firearms for personal protection? Read the 2nd sentence very carefully. It appears that if the land is CDFW controlled or controlled by another Government Entity, then they can rule no lead ammo. I can't find this in any other Regulation.

https://www.wildlife.ca.gov/Hunting/Nonlead-Ammunition#25046250-what-about-target-shooting-or-firearms-for-personal-protection

The regulations do not require use of nonlead ammunition when target shooting. Use of lead projectiles for target shooting is legal unless CDFW or another government entity has determined otherwise for lands they administer. The regulations do not prohibit the possession of concealable firearms containing lead ammunition, provided the firearm is possessed for personal protection and is not used to take or assist in the take of wildlife. With the exception of ammunition for concealable firearms possessed for personal protection, hunters may not possess lead ammunition along with a firearm capable of firing that ammunition in locations where nonlead ammunition is required.

this is a response directly from cdfw

[Mayor McRifle]

fish and game has been showing up at spenceville range, and has been issuing citations to people shooting lead ammo.

I posted this as a heads up. my boss, lives by the range. when I shoot, I am always there an hour before sunrise so I get my favorite bench, so no, I am not posting to scare people away. i, did not get cited. make of it what you will, call total bull**** if you want.......but as previously posted, i am not a liar.

edgerly, yes my boss witnessed it.

So is your boss still claiming that people have been getting cited for shooting lead ammo at the Spenceville range?

[edgerly779]

We got the info we needed lead ok for target shooting/ plinking. OP's boss misunderstood details of citation. Lets move on.

[Henry Shooter]

LOL. You do know that the study results were withheld until after the Bill was signed and it indicated that the lead levels in Condors were due to some other source than lead bullets.

Yes that is correct. One of the source of contamination would be the MTB that was put into gasoline in the 90's which protected the environment but actually contaminated ground water and everything it came in contact with.

Better thinking for a stronger environment

[Dutch3]

Click on the link below, scroll down to FAQ's and select What about target shooting or firearms for personal protection? Read the 2nd sentence very carefully. It appears that if the land is CDFW controlled or controlled by another Government Entity, then they can rule no lead ammo. I can't find this in any other Regulation.

https://www.wildlife.ca.gov/Hunting/Nonlead-Ammunition#25046250-what-about-target-shooting-or-firearms-for-personal-protection

The regulations do not require use of nonlead ammunition when target shooting. Use of lead projectiles for target shooting is legal unless CDFW or another government entity has determined otherwise for lands they administer. The regulations do not prohibit the possession of concealable firearms containing lead ammunition, provided the firearm is possessed for personal protection and is not used to take or assist in the take of wildlife. With the exception of ammunition for concealable firearms possessed for personal protection, hunters may not possess lead ammunition along with a firearm capable of firing that ammunition in locations where nonlead ammunition is required.

this is a response directly from cdfw

Yes, I posted that back in post #62.

[nine mil thrill]

Yupp

[mosinnagantm9130]

Just for kicks, next time I go to spenceville, I'll bring a BP revolver. Get some extra solid lead into the berms out there