Intrafamilia Transfer Processing Time?

[swiss_]

Hello all,

I recently filled out an intrafamilia transfer form with the DOJ. The transfer involves a handgun from mother to son (me). We originally filled out a form and sent it in over a month ago. 1.5 weeks later they sent it back, noting that we had missed something on the form. Our fault. We promptly filled out another form (correctly this time) and mailed it. It has now been approx. 5 weeks since we sent the second form in..

I realize that I'm dealing with a governmental agency and that I should not expect them to cooperate in a timely manner. However, it seems odd that they would take so long to process simple paperwork and run a background check. Especially after they responded so quickly the first time around.

If you've had any experience with these types of transfers and their wait times, please let me know when I should expect a confirmation.

Thanks!

[teg33]

It usually take about 3 weeks to 3 months

[readysetgo]

Couple things:

1) Intra is the correct term. Intra being "inside" the family, inter being "outside".

2) If you are waiting for the form to be acknowledged to complete your transfer then you are waiting unnecessarily. The transfer takes place and you send in the completed form and fee. You're done. You are not waiting for a background check (if any even takes place, which I can't say it is or isn't).

3) It's that easy but there are other requirements to be met. Do you understand these?

Timeframe? Seems you're right around the time to maybe expect something back. Guesstimate, anywhere from 4-12 weeks, somewhere in the middle probably.

[swiss_]

Couple things:

1) Intra is the correct term. Intra being "inside" the family, inter being "outside".

2) If you are waiting for the form to be acknowledged to complete your transfer then you are waiting unnecessarily. The transfer takes place and you send in the completed form and fee. You're done. You are not waiting for a background check (if any even takes place, which I can't say it is or isn't).

3) It's that easy but there are other requirements to be met. Do you understand these?

Timeframe? Seems you're right around the time to maybe expect something back. Guesstimate, anywhere from 4-12 weeks, somewhere in the middle probably.

Thank you for clearing up the terminology. I should have caught that.

I see. I assumed that I was able to take possession of the handgun as soon as one could reasonably assume that the DOJ had received the paperwork, based off of the date stamp from the previous response.

What other requirements are you speaking of?

[swiss_]

It usually take about 3 weeks to 3 months

Thank you for your response!

[M1NM]

What other requirements are you speaking of?

I think you need to have a Firearms Safety Card (FSC). And make sure it's not a registered AW that is being transfered - not all AWs are long guns. My open bolt MAC11 fell into the AW category.

[readysetgo]

Thank you for clearing up the terminology. I should have caught that.

I see. I assumed that I was able to take possession of the handgun as soon as one could reasonably assume that the DOJ had received the paperwork, based off of the date stamp from the previous response.

What other requirements are you speaking of?

OK, real quick. Ask questions if this doesn't make sense to you.

Most (read almost all) firearms transfers require going down to your FFL and processing the transaction with them right? Right, it's Penal Code 27545

OK, well there is an exception to the law for certain people under certain circumstances.

The exception you'll be concerned with is: 27875 (a)

27875.
(a) Section 27545 does not apply to the transfer of a firearm by gift, bequest, intestate succession, or other means from one individual to another, if all of the following requirements are met:
(1) The transfer is infrequent, as defined in Section 16730.
(2) The transfer is between members of the same immediate family.
(3) Within 30 days of taking possession of the firearm, the person to whom it is transferred shall submit a report to the Department of Justice, in a manner prescribed by the department, that includes information concerning the individual taking possession of the firearm, how title was obtained and from whom, and a description of the firearm in question. The reports that individuals complete pursuant to this subdivision shall be made available to them in a format prescribed by the department.
(4) Until January 1, 2015, the person taking title to the firearm shall first obtain a valid handgun safety certificate if the firearm is a handgun, and commencing January 1, 2015, a valid firearm safety certificate for any firearm, except that in the case of a handgun, a valid unexpired handgun safety certificate may be used.
(5) The person receiving the firearm is 18 years of age or older.

If all the above requirements are met, you do not have to comply with 27545 for this transfer. If they are not all met, you have violated 27545.


And this guy knows some of the common but dangerous things that people might miss or overlook

I think you need to have a Firearms Safety Card (FSC). And make sure it's not a registered AW that is being transfered - not all AWs are long guns. My open bolt MAC11 fell into the AW category.

[CaliforniaLiberal]

Hello all,

I recently filled out an intrafamilia transfer form with the DOJ. The transfer involves a handgun from mother to son (me). We originally filled out a form and sent it in over a month ago. 1.5 weeks later they sent it back, noting that we had missed something on the form. Our fault. We promptly filled out another form (correctly this time) and mailed it. It has now been approx. 5 weeks since we sent the second form in..

I realize that I'm dealing with a governmental agency and that I should not expect them to cooperate in a timely manner. However, it seems odd that they would take so long to process simple paperwork and run a background check. Especially after they responded so quickly the first time around.

If you've had any experience with these types of transfers and their wait times, please let me know when I should expect a confirmation.

Thanks!

Sending in this form is merely a notification to the State. You perform the transfer (Thanks Mom!) and then are just letting the State know about it. Stop waiting.

There is no "Handgun Registration" in California. You don't get any documents that the Gestapo will demand to prove your "Registration." The Dealer Record of Sale or in your case the Notification will be kept on file at the CA DOJ but you don't get any "Registration" document.

http://oag.ca.gov/firearms/pubfaqs#5

http://oag.ca.gov/firearms/pubfaqs#26

If it bugs you, you can wait a few months and then send off the State form asking what guns they have on record for you. This is for handguns and for long guns purchased after January 1, 2014. Records of long guns before that date were not kept on file.

http://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/agweb/pdfs/firearms/forms/AFSPrivateCitizen.pdf?

Might take 3 or 4 months, but they'll send you a list of guns they have on file as belonging to you.

[tnlrat37]

Last transfer I did it took right just under a month

[DMotivate]

I did one around this time last year and it took about 3 weeks before I received the paperwork documenting the transfer.

[TeddyBallgame]

i sent one in a few years ago

about a month later all i received was a letter acknowledging they received and processed my transfer

[swiss_]

OK, real quick. Ask questions if this doesn't make sense to you.

Most (read almost all) firearms transfers require going down to your FFL and processing the transaction with them right? Right, it's Penal Code 27545

OK, well there is an exception to the law for certain people under certain circumstances.

The exception you'll be concerned with is: 27875 (a)

If all the above requirements are met, you do not have to comply with 27545 for this transfer. If they are not all met, you have violated 27545.


And this guy knows some of the common but dangerous things that people might miss or overlook

Awesome. Thanks for being so detailed. All of the above requirements have been met. I shouldn't run into any issues. Thank you all for your speedy replies! Case closed.

[swiss_]

Sending in this form is merely a notification to the State. You perform the transfer (Thanks Mom!) and then are just letting the State know about it. Stop waiting.

There is no "Handgun Registration" in California. You don't get any documents that the Gestapo will demand to prove your "Registration." The Dealer Record of Sale or in your case the Notification will be kept on file at the CA DOJ but you don't get any "Registration" document.

http://oag.ca.gov/firearms/pubfaqs#5

http://oag.ca.gov/firearms/pubfaqs#26

If it bugs you, you can wait a few months and then send off the State form asking what guns they have on record for you. This is for handguns and for long guns purchased after January 1, 2014. Records of long guns before that date were not kept on file.

http://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/agweb/pdfs/firearms/forms/AFSPrivateCitizen.pdf?

Might take 3 or 4 months, but they'll send you a list of guns they have on file as belonging to you.

Great. Thanks a bunch!

[P5Ret]

Did they cash your check? If so you are probably fine. For some reason the state takes minutes to get your money, but weeks to acknowledge that they did.

[drkphibr]

...The Dealer Record of Sale or in your case the Notification will be kept on file at the CA DOJ...

Not quite sure that is correct. It's my understanding (someone please jump in) that the DROS information is transmitted to the CA DOJ at time of sale for the NICS process. The CA DOJ is supposed to (key word) delete this information after a short period of time (not sure how long) and the permanent record of the sale (DROS) is kept forever with the LGS. If/when the LGS closes shop permanently, CA gets the all DROSes at that point.