Anti-2A Trauma Doc

[code_blue]

Most of us think about carrying at work more than we would ever admit. From my fuzzy memory we were taught that knife/stab wounds were three times more likely to be fatal/more serious than a gsw. Unk where the lecturer got that stat from but professionally I get much more concerned with stabs than gunshots.


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My guess is he's a newbie or still green.

[code_blue]

That surprises me about Stanford. When I used to work at the hospital, I was asked to take down a picture I had in my office. Apparently the rifle I had slung across my chest, in uniform, while in service, made people uncomfortable. I was asked by leadership to not display anything firearm related regardless if it had military ties. I was told that many feel uncomfortable with firearms and with war so I need to be cautious to not offended them.

[talisman7]

Don't give up yet. There are docs that are on our side.

[Fortunesfool223]

...

I said, "You're not going to get away from a criminal that's intent on doing you harm let alone one that's hopped up on drugs."

He said, "That just means I need to work out more."

.....

I said, "You would be better served to work out your critical thinking skills."

I see this all the time....a doctor that works on a bandaged and restrained GSW patient that was brought to him into an air-conditoned, well lighted, sterile room, thinks he has special insight into street life, crime, and the drug trade.

The true medical miracle is that somehow the street cred flows from the patients blood to the doctors psyche.

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[Noble Cause]

It's easy to play Rambo with one's own hypothetical safety and claim "I'd run," or "I wouldn't shoot."

The real question for him is: "If your daughter was at a gun point of a person who already shot a few before her and you had a gun, would you shoot the attacker, or would you run and let your daughter be killed?"

This is a good real world example, which often works with reasonable people.

But the entrenched, Anti Gun "True Believers" will twist and turn to avoid
the obvious solution.

They often invoke "magical solutions" when presented with such a real world
dilemma. Here are some of the responses I have heard over the years:

"I would hit him over the head with a frying pan."

(Where did you get the frying pan ? How did you magically get positioned
Behind the bad guy to hit him without being shot ? )

"I would throw my cellphone at him to distract him so we could get away"
(That might buy you 3 seconds of time, you really think you can get out of
Range in just 3 seconds ? )

"This why we need more Gun Control, because then the bad guy wouldn't have
a gun."
(Wow, so your counting on Criminals to obey the law ? Really !? )

They will jump thru nonsensical hoops to avoid the obvious solution, that
having their own gun greatly increases the chances they could protect
themselves and others.


Noble

[nick]

Probably over 90% of deaths are caused by anything other than firearms. What would the doctor do then? Don't drive a car, don't drink, don't use a knife, don't... Oh, never mind...

Way more than 90%. And guns kill way more than medical malpractice. So he should stop practicing medicine

[IVC]

Don't give up yet. There are docs that are on our side.

That's true, but their organizations are virtually uniformly anti gun. That's where the influence and lobbying comes from.

[Crazycomic]

There's a lot more people with his mindset sadly...

[IVC]

They will jump thru nonsensical hoops to avoid the obvious solution, that having their own gun greatly increases the chances they could protect themselves and others.

Some of those are valid solutions - throwing a phone at an attacker is indeed an option. Hitting them with a pan shouldn't be an option because the attacker might get hurt, but it's a step in the right direction. Either way, I urge them to follow through with their self-defense method if they are ever in such a situation.

"I don't need no fire extinguisher because I'll huff and puff in the general direction of the fire" - no problem with that. After all, Darwin awards go to sentient beings who all thought: "Hey, I have a great idea."

On the other hand, the "we need more gun control so he doesn't have a gun in the first place" is a complete and utter nonsense that we have to dispell. That's the biggest fallacy of the gun control. The easiest way is to point out that every school had the ultimate gun control - absolutely no guns of any kind were allowed. So, we have to ask them "what kind of gun control would work, when a complete ban doesn't."

[hambam105]

I don't wrangle with EMS while they're on-duty in their wheelhouse.

I plan to chose the time & place to squabble with the politically deranged in white coats carefully.

[uechikid]

Negligent healthcare professionals cause upwards of 100,000 deaths a year. Way more than all of the gun deaths combined.

[Spyder]

That surprises me about Stanford. When I used to work at the hospital, I was asked to take down a picture I had in my office. Apparently the rifle I had slung across my chest, in uniform, while in service, made people uncomfortable. I was asked by leadership to not display anything firearm related regardless if it had military ties. I was told that many feel uncomfortable with firearms and with war so I need to be cautious to not offended them.

Surprised the heck out of me too. The first time, I thought that it was just one that was left behind by someone, but I had 6 months worth of chemo and there were several times when different gun rags were there!

[JDay]

It's easy to play Rambo with one's own hypothetical safety and claim "I'd run," or "I wouldn't shoot."

The real question for him is: "If your daughter was at a gun point of a person who already shot a few before her and you had a gun, would you shoot the attacker, or would you run and let your daughter be killed?"

He'd just say he could always make another daughter.

[JDay]

That surprises me about Stanford. When I used to work at the hospital, I was asked to take down a picture I had in my office. Apparently the rifle I had slung across my chest, in uniform, while in service, made people uncomfortable. I was asked by leadership to not display anything firearm related regardless if it had military ties. I was told that many feel uncomfortable with firearms and with war so I need to be cautious to not offended them.

You should have let him know that their micro aggression towards your prior service was offensive.

[JDay]

Negligent healthcare professionals cause upwards of 100,000 deaths a year. Way more than all of the gun deaths combined.

That's why it's called "practicing medicine".