Kern County CCW Denied!

[sac7000]

I remember years ago the standard reason we gave when getting a CCW was " For self-defense in compliance with the law "

I did let my CCW go for awhile when I started packing a double-barrel 12 guage in my pants. We were allowed to list up to 5 handguns on our ccw card but a concealed shotgun was not permitted. Nothing said you meant business more then when you whipped out the old scattergun.

[VeryCoolCat]

Say you do freelance computer repair out of your home and you have to visit strange homes and sometimes remote areas.

or say if someone beat you and stole your drivers liscence liscence then theatened to come back to your home if you told the cops and your in immediate fear of your life.

[stickman]

sorry to hear about the denial.

I would have thought that was a good enough reason to have a CCW....

I would say that being 22 did not help any....

I would think to best thing to do would be to talk directly to the people that signed the paperwork and see why they would not give you the CCW...

in any case....atleast you tried....i wouldn't even try in my county...there's too many liberials running the PDs


Patrick M.

San Mateo CO is not going to be good for that...maybe if you live up on Skyline you might have case.

Brian

[11Z50]

"I live in Kernville and have to travel constantly for school to Los Angeles and often late at night. Due to the remoteness and lack of cell phone reception in the Kern River Canyon, I feel particularly at risk while traveling through this area and would like to be able to lawfully carry a concealed weapon for my own safety. I am also an avid outdoorsman and camper who spends lots of time alone in the wooded areas of the Sequoia National Forest, far from law enforcement, and feel that lawfully carrying a concealed weapon would keep myself safe from possible encounters with wild animals or criminals. For all of these reasons, I respectfully request that I be granted a concealed weapons permit."

Based on your statement to the issuing authority, I'd say that your first reason, travel late at night in the Kern River Canyon, could be insufficient since there is a low rate of violent assaults in the area. Your second reason, expeditions in a National forest, is not justified since you may openly carry while engaged in a licensed hunting or fishing expedition.

Even mentioning a UT CCW would be counter-productive.

The thing to remember is that self-defense has nothing to do with a CCW. ALL citizens have the right to defend themselves, as well as to use that force necessary, to include arming oneself, to effect a citizen's arrest for a crime committed in their presence.

A CCW is justified when a person is deemed at risk, at least potentially, by the issuing authority. Many ranchers in rural areas get CCW's since they are routinely out in the wee hours, and farm equipment theft has occured.

A nice donation to the Sheriff's re-election committee as well as the Deputy Sheriff's association doen't hurt anything.

[sac7000]

Are not California's CCW laws written that so if you get caught with a loaded concealed weapon, the charge is reduced to a misdemeanor if you do not have a criminal record and are not a member of a gang? (1st offense of course)

I seem to remember reading something about this so that certain politicians who did have a ccw could pack heat without fear of being charged with a felony.