iTrader feedback system

[GlockTalk9]

I apologize in advance if this is the wrong sub-section for this.

I had a buyer commit to purchasing one of my handguns here on Calguns. We agreed on the logistics and met at the FFL on said date/time. After the buyer handled the handgun and dry fire few times, he tells me he no longer wants to purchase it as the handgun didn't feel right in his hand. I respond to him that I took the time and travel to meet him, and that he needs to visit the local gun dealers if he wanted to hold a certain firearm before making commitments to buy.

Does this call for a negative or neutral feedback?

[I Swan]

I'd say neg.

[meno377]

I apologize in advance if this is the wrong sub-section for this.

I had a buyer commit to purchasing one of my handguns here on Calguns. We agreed on the logistics and met at the FFL on said date/time. After the buyer handled the handgun and dry fire few times, he tells me he no longer wants to purchase it as the handgun didn't feel right in his hand. I respond to him that I took the time and travel to meet him, and that he needs to visit the local gun dealers if he wanted to hold a certain firearm before making commitments to buy.

Does this call for a negative or neutral feedback?

From what I understand, no. You didn't actually perform a transaction. You can PM a moderator about this.

17) iTrader ratings.
Negative feedback should be reserved for transactions where one party has lost either money or goods, or the delivered product is substantially different than advertised. Positive feedback is appropriate for a transaction with good communications between they parties involved and that completes in a timely manner. Neutral feedback is for everything else, including transactions which are not completed. Use the comment section to describe why you gave the rating you did. Retaliatory feedback is not tolerated and should be reported to a moderator. See Rule #16 regarding Marketplace Disputes.

It says you can give them a neutral feedback.

[7 Sprig]

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=810593

17) iTrader ratings.
Negative feedback should be reserved for transactions where one party has lost either money or goods, or the delivered product is substantially different than advertised. Positive feedback is appropriate for a transaction with good communications between they parties involved and that completes in a timely manner. Neutral feedback is for everything else, including transactions which are not completed. Use the comment section to describe why you gave the rating you did. Retaliatory feedback is not tolerated and should be reported to a moderator. See Rule #16 regarding Marketplace Disputes.

Leave Neutral feedback with a explanation of what went down

[GlockTalk9]

damn I'm such a noob and didn't catch that. thanks fellers

[-hanko]

From what I've seen, this is the only forum where flakes like the buyer on this thread are forgiven...even though OP as seller did lose both gas money as well as his valuable time.

[meno377]

From what I've seen, this is the only forum where flakes like the buyer on this thread are forgiven...even though OP as seller did lose both gas money as well as his valuable time.

Both lose gas money and time. Why do you not mention the potential buyer? What if the sellers item was misrepresented?

[Bushwack44]

I apologize in advance if this is the wrong sub-section for this.

I had a buyer commit to purchasing one of my handguns here on Calguns. We agreed on the logistics and met at the FFL on said date/time. After the buyer handled the handgun and dry fire few times, he tells me he no longer wants to purchase it as the handgun didn't feel right in his hand. I respond to him that I took the time and travel to meet him, and that he needs to visit the local gun dealers if he wanted to hold a certain firearm before making commitments to buy.

Does this call for a negative or neutral feedback?

If the purpose of meeting was the intent to purchase but based upon inspection, then he has the right to back away.

If he committed to the purchase based on photographs and information provided and then backed away, he's a jerk. But based on CG guidelines, *I* think a transaction has to first occur before providing negative feedback.

Based on personal experience, a buyer offered to purchase a pistol I had on CG. I drove 25 miles to meet him and he never showed up - no communication (e-mail, telephone). I never heard from him. I left a neutral rating and in return he left negative feedback with an outright lie. I notified Kestrall and he rectified the situation and I think deleted his account (he was a newbie of a few months with limited posts). It's because of that jerk that I set conditions in a listing for the buyer.

[EspoMan]

Maybe I'm crazy but that deserves Neg rating. The buyer should already know what he wants and should have tested the gun at a gun store before he decided if he wanted it or not. Don't waste working people's time. If he inspected the gun and it had some sort of damage or something not mentioned in the original posting, then I can see backing out. The dude committed to buying it, he should know what he wants. Period.

[tbc]

I have a better idea for the OP. Just tell us who the buyer was.


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[Oceanbob]

I have a better idea for the OP. Just tell us who the buyer was.


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This^^^^^^^

Warn us about this guy.

Personally, it sounds like the guy is a FLAKE who has no concern for the integrity of a deal. He must think he's test driving, holding and accessing your gun on your time before committing. You drove for a PPT based on his commitment. He flaked on you. Neutral i trader and his name....

[hermosabeach]

When you leave Negative feedback, expect them to do the same.....


I personally don't want feedback... why do I need anyone seeing what I have purchased or Sold.....

[Bansh88]

If someone agrees to buy a gun and then claims "it doesn't feel right", he should forever be known as a total douchebag.
However, it is a buyers right not to take it once it's in front of him. A small downfall of online activity.

I agree with a neutral. But leave a comment saying what happened.

[meno377]

I obviously don't know the seller or the buyer. But so far on this thread, we have heard only one side of the story. I respect what the seller said and offered an opinion in my first reply.

But it's also fair to say that the buyer may have felt that the item was misrepresented when he picked it up and tried the trigger out. None of us were there except the OP. Both of them wasted gas money and time showing up to perform the transaction.

So far I see this as equal ground. If the buyer didn't show up for example, then it's a different situation, but that's not the case here.

[GlockTalk9]

I left him a neutral feedback. I'm not going to exploit the buyer (or yet). A lesson learned is to not fully trust new members with '0' or low itrader ratings hereon.

The handgun was sold in complete stock form as if it were from the factory with 500 rounds or less fired. It's a perfect functioning and well maintained pistol. I have emailed the buyer a dozen pictures upon his request prior to meeting. I've offered the buyer he may test fire the handgun prior to purchasing, given he pays his own way in and provides his own ammo. The good part of this outcome was that a fellow Calgun member happened to be at that FFL during that time and he ended up buying my M&P9 He's the real MVP lol