collection stolen in east bay

[gwl]

Damn it at! Take a man's firearms AND kick the dog!

Freakin' animals I tell you!

[HowardW56]

I can imagine that a number of handguns disappearing might warrant a red flag, but being the victim of a crime should never prevent you from buying legal products. There are so many guns stolen through out this country, and California every year these guns are literally a drop in the bucket. Having a safe is a good idea, but I 100% blame the dirtbags who stole them. We are so desensitized to crime and low life criminals, that even when they break down doors and enter homes, somehow it's the residents fault.

I agree with you, but knowing the community you live in and not taking the appropriate steps to protect your property is short sighted.

[joems]

sorry to hear your loss. yeah, uc is small but thugs and gangs are rampant allright. I used to park my van outside my dad's house in uc, and in broad daylight someone just throw a rock on the passenger side window and try to steal something.

my dad's place has an alarm system that alerts the security company and the police.

[jeffsenpai]

There is one company that makes a disassembled/take-down safe, so you could move it up and down flights of stairs. It's got to be better than nothing.

any more info on this?

[Rudolf the Red]

I lost 18 guns 5 years ago to thieves. Carried away my small safe.

My first purchase after a Smith .38 was a big ***** safe!!

I got 2 guns back since by police recovery.

[BB63Squid]

For those of you inclined to do so, I ran across a free software package from the Insurance Information Institute. It allows you to take a inventory of your home, document all the items, add pictures, etc.

It takes a little time to set up all the rooms and document everything but in a situation just like the OP described I am sure it would come in handy when giving the popo your inventory of stolen goods as well as your insurance company.

III Know Your Stuff Home Inventory Software

[Wild Squid]

Where did you hear that?!?!? Why would the victim of burglary be denied for that?

I'm not even entirely sure about that, but I think on the DROS questionnaire one of the questions asks you if you've ever had a any guns stolen from you. If I am wrong however, anyone who wants to tell me so and prove it please do so in a civil manner, there is no need for smartass remark to prove who knows more than who. I just feel that coming that's all.

[BB63Squid]

I'm not even entirely sure about that, but I think on the DROS questionnaire one of the questions asks you if you've ever had a any guns stolen from you. If I am wrong however, anyone who wants to tell me so and prove it please do so in a civil manner, there is no need for smartass remark to prove who knows more than who. I just feel that coming that's all.

I just filled out a 4473 on Saturday and that was not one of the questions asked on the form.

[RRangel]

I lost 18 guns 5 years ago to thieves. Carried away my small safe.

My first purchase after a Smith .38 was a big ***** safe!!

I got 2 guns back since by police recovery.

People don't realize that having a safe doesn't mean you're not going to have your property stolen. It's peace of mind, and it definitely makes it harder to steal, but give a criminal time and even many large home safes can be defeated. Some thieves broke into my old employers office years ago. The crooks removed the safe that was bolted to the floor of a large closet one weekend when everyone was out. Tools were used to break it wide open. The safe in question was similar to any California approved gun safe, and not a lock box, or cheap safe by any means. That was an eye opener for me.

[chickenfried]

Here's one company for takedown/self assembled safes

http://www.zanottiarmor.com/

any more info on this?

[hoozaru]

Sorry to hear your loss man.
I am sure the dogs tried their best to stop the mofos from invading.
Truely honestly seriously ...........
insert angy words here ~ rkt should just die DIE DIE DIE!!!
In todays tough economy we r all busy working during the day thus cannot be at home to watch our property and collections. Then came these donothing druggie parasites stealing and selling your firearms bought by hard earned money, hurting your family and pets in the process, all so they could have more $$ for Cocaine and marijuana. insert angy words here ~ rkt

please don't defeat the word filters, and yes it extremeley agitating but please watch the language used.

[rayra]

done in broad daylight ,.,the window to a back door was broken .,.,dog was most likely kicked to the outside judging by the vomit on the floor.,.,.a locked interior door was kicked in .,.,.,collection had grown too large to stay in the homak safe which would have easily been detatched from the wall and carried away.,.,they were not in the safe.,.,.,took police 1.5 hours to respond.,.,told me its investigation took a backseat behind all the murders in oakland..,.,

That's pitiful. $6-7k? in guns and a $100 RSC that wasnt even in use.

[rayra]

Ease up fellas. I'm sure he gets the point now.

It ain't about him. It's to drive the lesson home to all the other fools out there with several thousands invested in firearm and no safe. If your got two firearms, 1 ought to locked up. If you've spent $1000 on firearms you ought to have spent $500 on a safe.

[rayra]

Also, I would put off buying guns for quite some time. Now that you've just had a whole stash of guns stolen from you, I don't even think you re gonna be able to buy guns anymore. The DOJ is gonna know that you lost a whole stash of guns and they are out on the streets. You will NOT pass DROS on any firearm purchase, possibly for the rest of your life, I am sorry to say that, but the DOJ and ATF is not gonna take this lightly like the stupid Sheriffs. I hope they dusted for prints, you didn't mention if they did or not.

Seriously, you should shut the **** up with that nonsense.

[hoozaru]

a $2000 600lb safe will not stop an intruder trying to break in. The would still probably have broken the back door, still kicked his dogs to the side, saw the big safe, probably left it alone then continue to take the TV and computer stuff instead. He might still have the collections, but the BG is walking away with other valuable items, such as a computer or laptop loaded with photos and contact info of your loved ones. I think most of us would work another two or three jobs in order to regain the collections, but it's feeling of someone invaded your home that will not go away for a long long time.