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  • #31
    JDay
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Nov 2008
    • 19393

    Originally posted by PMA
    Let's assuming that you are correct and that the DOJ interprets the terms of my probation as I'm in treatment for alcohol. Alcoholism is still not a prohibited category. Narcotics addiction is, but there's no mention of alcoholism.
    Look at the form 4473 next time you fill it out. You checked no to the box that asked if you are an alcoholic and/or an unlawful user of narcotics. Alcoholics are barred federally from possessing firearms. It's also a federal crime to falsify anything on that form.
    Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

    The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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    • #32
      ChuckDizzle
      Banned
      • Dec 2013
      • 4398

      Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
      Yea, like being behind the wheel when intoxicated. Sorry, but you are in denial and trying to blame your irresponsible behavior on being "at the wrong place at the wrong time". I'm not trying to criticize or belittle you. You just need help and you won't get help until you recognize the fact that you need help.




      Where they still on active probation? Also, it could be nothing more than a mistaken identity. DOJ, under Harris, has gone way overboard requiring that anybody in question get a livescan done to prove that he/she is not a prohibited person. It's quite possible that your irresponsible and dangerous actions have nothing to do with being denied. Just wait for the letter and, while you are waiting, do a little soul searching.

      BTW, you're lucky you were caught by a LEO. My mom, sister and niece were hit by someone "at the wrong place at the wrong time" once. He did his time and was out walking the streets before my mother had learned to walk again. So, if someone like me had found you "at the wrong place at the wrong time", you might not have been lucky enough to drive again, period. Please, please, realize that you do need help taking responsibility for your actions and then, get the help you need.
      He doesn't want a lecture bro, he just wants to buy a gun.

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      • #33
        low67vdubinnocal
        Senior Member
        CGN Contributor
        • Dec 2013
        • 816

        I got a delay in 2013 that lasted a month until I proved a charge from 2006 and probation were dropped and completed from queens New York. I bet like JDay said above Until your off probation you will get denied.
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        • #34
          PMA
          Junior Member
          • Jan 2013
          • 75

          Originally posted by JDay
          Doesn't matter. You claimed that all DUI convictions come with mandatory AA, and that's just not true.
          I stand corrected. I should revise my statement. All DUI convictions in the county of Los Angeles are required to complete a certain number of AA meetings.

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          • #35
            CSACANNONEER
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            • Dec 2006
            • 44093

            Originally posted by ChuckDizzle
            He doesn't want a lecture bro, he just wants to buy a gun.
            So do many other substance abusers who are in denial.
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            • #36
              PMA
              Junior Member
              • Jan 2013
              • 75

              Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
              Yea, like being behind the wheel when intoxicated. Sorry, but you are in denial and trying to blame your irresponsible behavior on being "at the wrong place at the wrong time". I'm not trying to criticize or belittle you. You just need help and you won't get help until you recognize the fact that you need help.
              I'm not deflecting responsibility and take full responsibility for all of my actions. What do I need help for? Alcoholism? I have a drink once every couple of months.




              Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
              Where they still on active probation?
              I'm not certain. I did read through the terms of my probation and there is no mention of firearms.


              Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
              BTW, you're lucky you were caught by a LEO. My mom, sister and niece were hit by someone ?
              I'm so sorry to hear that. That's truly horrible.

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              • #37
                PMA
                Junior Member
                • Jan 2013
                • 75

                Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                So do many other substance abusers who are in denial.
                Really? Are you kidding me? Substance abusers? You've never had a beer, a glass of wine, or a shot of whiskey?

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                • #38
                  JDay
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 19393

                  Originally posted by PMA
                  Really? Are you kidding me? Substance abusers? You've never had a beer, a glass of wine, or a shot of whiskey?
                  There's a difference between having a few drinks and having drinks and getting behind the wheel of a 2000lb projectile while intoxicated. And apparently the court believes you have a problem, hence the AA.
                  Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

                  The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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                  • #39
                    PMA
                    Junior Member
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 75

                    Originally posted by JDay
                    There's a difference between having a few drinks and having drinks and getting behind the wheel of a 2000lb projectile while intoxicated. And apparently the court believes you have a problem, hence the AA.
                    Correction - 5,170 pound projectile.

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                    • #40
                      JDay
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 19393

                      Originally posted by PMA
                      Correction - 5,170 pound projectile.
                      And you don't see a problem with that? In fact you appear to be bragging now.
                      Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

                      The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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                      • #41
                        teg33
                        Veteran Member
                        • May 2013
                        • 3441

                        OP, just wait for DOJ letter, don't getting work out yet. Most likely mistaken identity

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                        • #42
                          Win231
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2015
                          • 2099

                          Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                          Yea, like being behind the wheel when intoxicated. Sorry, but you are in denial and trying to blame your irresponsible behavior on being "at the wrong place at the wrong time". I'm not trying to criticize or belittle you. You just need help and you won't get help until you recognize the fact that you need help.




                          Where they still on active probation? Also, it could be nothing more than a mistaken identity. DOJ, under Harris, has gone way overboard requiring that anybody in question get a livescan done to prove that he/she is not a prohibited person. It's quite possible that your irresponsible and dangerous actions have nothing to do with being denied. Just wait for the letter and, while you are waiting, do a little soul searching.

                          BTW, you're lucky you were caught by a LEO. My mom, sister and niece were hit by someone "at the wrong place at the wrong time" once. He did his time and was out walking the streets before my mother had learned to walk again. So, if someone like me had found you "at the wrong place at the wrong time", you might not have been lucky enough to drive again, period. Please, please, realize that you do need help taking responsibility for your actions and then, get the help you need.
                          "Yea, like being behind the wheel when intoxicated. Sorry, but you are in denial and trying to blame your irresponsible behavior on being "at the wrong place at the wrong time".

                          Bingo! Couldn't have said it better.

                          This is the type of drunk driver who will keep doing it until he kills someone or cripples them for life. A gun is not the only thing he shouldn't have. He shouldn't have a car, either.

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                          • #43
                            LowThudd
                            Veteran Member
                            • Dec 2011
                            • 3608

                            Wow. OP, you are not showing much humility about this issue. I would just take suggestions from people here and accept it. Your denial of the severity is a little troubling.

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                            • #44
                              PMA
                              Junior Member
                              • Jan 2013
                              • 75

                              Originally posted by JDay
                              And you don't see a problem with that? In fact you appear to be bragging now.
                              Not bragging, just correcting you.

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                              • #45
                                PMA
                                Junior Member
                                • Jan 2013
                                • 75

                                Originally posted by LowThudd
                                Wow. OP, you are not showing much humility about this issue. I would just take suggestions from people here and accept it. Your denial of the severity is a little troubling.


                                What denial?

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