I was wrong

[Wadedeeper]

I misread the SB707 and thankfully it was pointed out that I read it wrong. It still will be a problem to me and any parent who has a CCW as it reaffirms that CCW carriers are not permitted to carry on school grounds which has been a huge issue for me picking my daughter up from school since I carry normally anyways and go straight to get her from school.

Why the bill removes the ammo exception and allows a person with a permit to carry ammo on school grounds but not a firearm is beyond me. They should remove the exceptions on both to allow those with permits to be allowed to carry on school grounds like they did for colleges. Sorry to those who were misled as I was in my initial review of the law.

I'm still screwed though as I travel onto school grounds to retrieve my daughter and they can create a problem if they ever found out.

[ChuckDizzle]

If you are ever in trouble for this and your arms are otherwise legally being carried it is likely that the charge would be held unconstitutional in its application to you.

There was a similar case involving sex offenders and safe zones for kids. The courts decided the law could be applied constitutionally if they were loitering in the area, etc. but it couldn't be used if they were just passing through.

[glock_this]

I'd be screwed, I live 1000' (as the crow flies) from a school

[Maltese Falcon]

My house is next to a school (well, grassy playing field but still), no need for flying crows.

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[Wadedeeper]

Please do not spread incorrect information. SB707 if passed, only affects CCW holders when they are ACTUALLY ON SCHOOL GROUNDS, it still exempts them in the 1000 foot buffer area outside the school boundary.

I guess I'm not following because I just read,

"(2) Any person who violates subdivision (b) by possessing a firearm within a distance of 1,000 feet from the grounds of a public or private school providing instruction in kindergarten or grades 1 to 12, inclusive, shall be punished as follows:..." so how am I spreading lies?

[Wadedeeper]

Please do not spread incorrect information. SB707 if passed, only affects CCW holders when they are ACTUALLY ON SCHOOL GROUNDS

I just showed it to my brother who is a lawyer and he confirmed, that based on the verbiage a police officer could absolutely cite and arrest me and while I could most definitely fight it, its an unnecessary burden to fight against an unfair law designed to hurt law abiding citizens. Now, I don't know if he read it and considered the whole thing but based on my reading it and his at least cursory glimpse of it, it seems to be hugely problematic to those of us with A CCW and who do carry especially when I live next to a school myself and drive by schools all the time. Just because I can fight something and win doesn't mean I won't get arrested if I ever were to get pulled over within 1000' of a school grounds. Not to mention I have a daughter who I drop off and pick up from school and this most definitely does impact me as I can't even lock my firearm up and pick her up because I can't bring the firearm near the campus. So, please, CARRY ON and explain how I misread the bill.

[Peter.Steele]

I guess I'm not following because I just read,

"(2) Any person who violates subdivision (b) by possessing a firearm within a distance of 1,000 feet from the grounds of a public or private school providing instruction in kindergarten or grades 1 to 12, inclusive, shall be punished as follows:..." so how am I spreading lies?

http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201520160SB707

How about actually reading?

[malfunction]

I guess I'm not following because I just read,

"(2) Any person who violates subdivision (b) by possessing a firearm within a distance of 1,000 feet from the grounds of a public or private school providing instruction in kindergarten or grades 1 to 12, inclusive, shall be punished as follows:..." so how am I spreading lies?

Read SkyHawk's link, it's as clear as these things ever are. There's whole pile of exemptions to subdivision (b), listed under subdivision (c). Currently there's an exemption for CCW holders (in red), but this measure deletes that exemption.

[DDM4556]

Didn't read it, don't have the time at the moment. But if the OP is wrong, I certainly don't believe he intended to "spread incorrect information". You could have just as easily made him aware of the exemption without the accusatory reply.

[SkyHawk]

I misread the SB707 and thankfully it was pointed out that I read it wrong. It still will be a problem to me and any parent who has a CCW as it reaffirms that CCW carriers are not permitted to carry on school grounds which has been a huge issue for me picking my daughter up from school since I carry normally anyways and go straight to get her from school. .

I removed my posts because there is plenty of info in the other threads. But you are right, if this passes it sucks. I also pick up my daughter from school on occasion, either on my way back from somehere or on my way to somewhere. This bill would mean I have to unload my pistol and lock it in a container before I enter the parking lot of her school. Then I would have to retrieve and reload it after leaving her school. This constant loading and unloading inside my vehicle, is a more real and present danger than the boogeyman this bill seeks to stop.

[Wadedeeper]

I removed my posts because there is plenty of info in the other threads. But you are right, if this passes it sucks. I also pick up my daughter from school on occasion, either on my way back from somehere or on my way to somewhere. This bill would mean I have to unload my pistol and lock it in a container before I enter the parking lot of her school. Then I would have to retrieve and reload it after leaving her school. This constant loading and unloading inside my vehicle, is a more real and present danger than the boogeyman this bill seeks to stop.

Thanks and sorry for the confusion, that'll teach me to try and read lengthy things via a cell phone again and think I have an understanding of it. I pulled it up on my computer and it made more sense and I felt stupid.

I also agree entirely that it still sucks since it does affect parents picking up their kids from school. I always worry that someone will see me securing my firearm in the car when I have to lock it up. As well, my biggest fear is that I am trying to holster the weapon in the awkward sitting position and don't notice something is catching the trigger until the bang. Holstering a weapon while standing is no biggie, but doing so while sitting in a car, much more problematic especially with IWB holsters. Maybe a nice OWB holster would be easier but can't really conceal one with a dress shirt.

[TeddyBallgame]

OP, hopefully Jerry Brown see's this piece of crap bill for what it is, which is nothing that will prevent any type of crime and VETO it

it should be VETO'd based on the exemption bias alone

[sharxbyte]

This also affects me as a student at a community college (which ironically was under threat Friday, they arrested the guy before he carried anything out). I will be completely defenseless not only at, but on my way to and from school.

[P5Ret]

This also affects me as a student at a community college (which ironically was under threat Friday, they arrested the guy before he carried anything out). I will be completely defenseless not only at, but on my way to and from school.

When did college's become part of K-12 schools?

[sharxbyte]

When did college's become part of K-12 schools?

College campuses are included in the prohibition.

( l ) This section does not apply to a duly appointed
peace officer as defined in Chapter 4.5 (commencing with Section 830)
of Title 3 of Part 2, a full-time paid peace officer of another
state or the federal government who is carrying out official duties
while in California, any person summoned by any of these officers to
assist in making arrests or preserving the peace while he or she is
actually engaged in assisting the officer, a member of the military
forces of this state or of the United States who is engaged in the
performance of his or her duties, a person holding a valid
license to carry the firearm pursuant to Chapter 4 (commencing with
Section 26150) of Division 5 of Title 4 of Part 6, or an
armored vehicle guard, engaged in the performance of his or her
duties, as defined in subdivision (e) of Section 7521
(d) of Section 7582.1 of the Business and