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  • #16
    phoman45
    Junior Member
    • Jun 2013
    • 41

    The round would be accurate enough at short range

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    • #17
      Steve_In_29
      Banned
      • Nov 2009
      • 5682

      Originally posted by phoman45
      The round would be accurate enough at short range

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      NO it wouldn't due to recoil. The recoil would be brutal and there is no way to grip the rile to tame it.

      Unless you are some kind of super stealth ninja hunter and can get closer then bow range on that deer. So why handicap yourself in a SHTF, your life depends on hunting, situation with such a monstrosity? As I said it does nothing for a true survivalist.

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      • #18
        BrokerB
        Calguns Addict
        • Sep 2010
        • 5344

        Obrez survival ist is made to take the next dudes rifle when you are in handshaking distance. .. accuracy and recoil are no issue at hands length
        Beans and Bullets

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        • #19
          Steve_In_29
          Banned
          • Nov 2009
          • 5682

          Originally posted by BrokerB
          Obrez survival ist is made to take the next dudes rifle when you are in handshaking distance. .. accuracy and recoil are no issue at hands length
          So why start with a PERFECTLY good survival weapon, cut it down until it is basically useless, to then use it to get another persons weapon to use for survival? Some people are not clear on the concept it seems.

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          • #20
            81turbota
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            • Oct 2014
            • 2956

            Sell it and buy one that is already messed with please. Don't ruin another one.
            C&R nut.

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            • #21
              BrokerB
              Calguns Addict
              • Sep 2010
              • 5344

              Your term of survival is subjective. Obrez was made for one thing. . To survive...and take another mans life, which lead to taking what rhat person had.

              A full size 91/30 is towards the bottom of the list as a 'perfectly good " survival rifle... it is too big..too heavy..ammo is mostly corrosive and not needing that size ammo to take 99% of game in NA. Blue Helmets dont carry rimmed cartridge anways.

              Survival game is facey palmy weak anways. I would ask what mad max world are you surviving in perfectly with a 91/30- but dont waste your breath)

              "Facey palmy gay"
              Beans and Bullets

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              • #22
                hk91666
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2009
                • 1945

                As stated earlier buy an M44 or Chinese T53 (clone of M44)
                "Si Vis Pacem Parabellum"

                NRA Life Member since 1978
                NRA Endowment Member since 2016
                CRPA Life Member 2022

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                • #23
                  Lone_Gunman
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 8396

                  Originally posted by Steve_In_29
                  So why start with a PERFECTLY good survival weapon, cut it down until it is basically useless, to then use it to get another persons weapon to use for survival? Some people are not clear on the concept it seems.
                  Because you're a civilian partisan, in an occupied city in WWII, and you need a way to get more weapons. Is one rifle better than 5 rifles you can get with one cut down rifle, and some stealth and cunning?

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                  • #24
                    Cannon-Arms
                    In Memoriam
                    • Apr 2012
                    • 1389

                    Obrez is not illegal and you do not need any paperwork for one. You just need a good fabricator/welder.

                    Three $89.00 Big 5 Mosins, flame cut the receivers to legally demill per ATF rules, piece together the parts of the flame cut receivers to weld and fab to obrez pistols.

                    Why? because you can, because there are millions upon millions of Mosins out there, because, who cares, it's your money, time and hobby.


                    Geezzzz people, chill out.

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                    • #25
                      phoman45
                      Junior Member
                      • Jun 2013
                      • 41

                      I plan to build a Scout and sporterized the hell out of another

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                      • #26
                        mosinnagantm9130
                        Calguns Addict
                        • May 2009
                        • 8782

                        While you're at it, take a few hundred dollars, douse it in gasoline, and light it on fire.

                        It's the same result you'll get with bubba'ing a milsurp, but a least with my method you'll be warm.
                        Originally posted by GoodEyeSniper
                        My neighbors think I'm a construction worker named Bruce.

                        Little do they know that's just my stripper outfit and name.
                        Originally posted by ChopperX
                        I am currently cleaning it and I noticed when I squeeze the snake this white paste like substance comes out. What the heck is this crap?
                        Originally posted by Jeff L
                        Don't D&T a virgin milsurp rifle. You'll burn in collector hell.

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                        • #27
                          Steve_In_29
                          Banned
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 5682

                          Originally posted by Cannon-Arms
                          Obrez is not illegal and you do not need any paperwork for one. You just need a good fabricator/welder.

                          Three $89.00 Big 5 Mosins, flame cut the receivers to legally demill per ATF rules, piece together the parts of the flame cut receivers to weld and fab to obrez pistols.

                          Why? because you can, because there are millions upon millions of Mosins out there, because, who cares, it's your money, time and hobby.


                          Geezzzz people, chill out.
                          Might be legal doing it that way but good luck explaining to Joe 6Pack LEO that even though it looks EXACTLY like a cut down Mosin SBR it is really just a bolt action pistol.

                          Big5 Mosins haven't been $89 in years, more like $150 now and for that $450 (plus at least $100 in welder/machinist time) you can just buy an actual, no hassles with LEO, pistol.

                          As an exercise in what can be done and a fun(?) range toy I have no problem with it but to state that it is actually functional in the real world as a survivalist weapon is ridiculous.

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                          • #28
                            Steve_In_29
                            Banned
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 5682

                            Originally posted by Lone_Gunman
                            Because you're a civilian partisan, in an occupied city in WWII, and you need a way to get more weapons. Is one rifle better than 5 rifles you can get with one cut down rifle, and some stealth and cunning?
                            Except no one here is a WWII partisan and the cut down rifle was needed due to the almost complete lack of pistol ownership among the civilian population in Russia. A state of affairs that is not present in even an America that has had a Red Dawn.
                            Last edited by Steve_In_29; 09-14-2015, 6:32 PM. Reason: spelling

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                            • #29
                              81turbota
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 2956

                              And also- Germany made "millions upon millions" of Mausers that were once sold for $29.95 in hardware stores. Guess those won't be worth anything either....

                              Watch the Mosin market, things like refurbs are appreciating linearly while rarer variants are appreciating exponentially.

                              OP, buy yourself a cheap Ruger American or something. If you cut down a Mosin, you burn your $$$ as mentioned above and make all of ours slightly more valuable.
                              C&R nut.

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                              • #30
                                Steve_In_29
                                Banned
                                • Nov 2009
                                • 5682

                                Originally posted by BrokerB
                                Your term of survival is subjective. Obrez was made for one thing. . To survive...and take another mans life, which lead to taking what rhat person had.

                                A full size 91/30 is towards the bottom of the list as a 'perfectly good " survival rifle... it is too big..too heavy..ammo is mostly corrosive and not needing that size ammo to take 99% of game in NA. Blue Helmets dont carry rimmed cartridge anways.

                                Survival game is facey palmy weak anways. I would ask what mad max world are you surviving in perfectly with a 91/30- but dont waste your breath)

                                "Facey palmy gay"
                                Butt hurt much?

                                As I already explained, in America the huge amount of pistol ownership among the general population provides the PERFECT weapon to get close enough to take someone's life and then their stuff as you claim is necessary.

                                So you feel the 91/30 is not suited for a survival situation when it is as reliable as a brick, will take down ANY game animal in North America for food, will take down any man needing to be dispatched (and from a much safer distance then the Obrez), is dirt cheap as far as rifles go even at current price of $150, can stockpile a huge amount of ammo for not much money and you can use it as a club to beat someone to death with it and it will still function (unlike the AR).

                                Oh and there's that whole WWII thing where it manged to kill over a million Germans.

                                Only thing it doesn't have is the tacti-coolness of the current fanboi fav AR.

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