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  • #46
    The Gleam
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Feb 2011
    • 12465

    Originally posted by IVC
    What gets lost in the parody of calling it a "stash" looking for "motive" and being scared of a 10/22 is that we in CA had the same thing coming with SB-374 which actually *passed* and was only at the last moment vetoed by Brown.

    The end-game of the modern gun control movement in the US is precisely to outlaw *all* semi-automatic firearms ("self loading" in the article) via the same mechanism that full-auto firearms were outlawed (in CA): register, grandfather, ban transfers, declare nuisance, wait a generation, ban possession.

    That's why we have to keep fighting universal registration (sold to the public as "universal background checks") - registration makes civil disobedience very difficult and we'd be one step away of a supermajority at the federal level pulling another "Obamacare," but this time with banning guns along what Feinstein wanted in 1994 ("Mr and Ms America, turn them all in.")
    Agree. I was thinking the same exact thing about SB-374 as I read this. We were just a few pen-strokes away from emulating Australia, and I put that blame not on legislators, but passive California gun owners. Which means, that is also our future if merely delayed. They'll apathetically allow someone like Gavin Newsome or Mike Feuer to don the Governor's seat down the road at some near future reality, and then that's it. Irreversible.

    You read this article here, but then go back a few weeks or so to the found "stash" and "cache" of the collection found in Pacific Palisades, where granted the guy was a nut-ball and possibly a scammer, but they were fervent to assume there MUST have been illegal firearm trafficking activity or assumption criminal intent with firearms.

    And there wasn't. The two articles have a familiar tone, nearly word for word.


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    Originally posted by Librarian
    What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

    If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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    • #47
      Capybara
      CGSSA Coordinator
      CGN Contributor
      • Feb 2012
      • 15389

      The Aussies are as p-whipped, submissive and politically correct as the Brits now. Guess we are next. I am glad I am 52, hopefully I will be in the ground before we get that bad here but I agree with the others, California has us in their sights and Newsom, Harris, Der Feuer, whoever is in that office in 2019 will be the one to pull that trigger. I fear by 2020, we will be in the same boat. Some California gun owners are fighting, donating and doing the right things but the vast majority are ignorant and naive about our future in this state. I also think that many law abiding gun owners will just ignore the upcoming tyrannical laws as will a surprising amount of law enforcement. Then California will be no different than a third world country, the laws will apply to the ones selected to serve as warnings for the sheep to acquiesce and bow down before the Tyrants in Sacramento but a majority will do what gun owners in NY have done about the SAFE act, ignore it, and gun owners/sellers and law enforcement in Colorado have done with the mag restrictions, they ignore it.
      Last edited by Capybara; 09-13-2015, 6:07 PM.
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      • #48
        VegasND
        Calguns Addict
        • Aug 2007
        • 8621

        Sad story.

        Man dies an no heirs inherit his property.
        People don't like to be meddled with. We tell them what to do, what to think, don't run, don't walk. We're in their homes and in their heads and we haven't the right. We're meddlesome.
        --River Tam

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