Carry less or non lethal first round

[rcslotcar]

Maybe fmj jhp fmj jhp etc...

[davidb]

All these 'armchair' combatants, here. What a joke...

Lmao don't get bent out of shape over semantics...

[faris1984]

It is racist to talk against non lethal bullets like this..
9 mm ammo matter,9 mm ammo matter.

[davidb]

Extremely racist

[Citadelgrad87]

One shoots to stop the threat, not kill- big difference in the intent...could be the difference between a murder charge and manslaughter...I'd watch my p's and q's here and especially with the cops. Plenty of people get arrested for, and many times charged, with murder or manslaughter when they believe they were acting in self-defense, only to learn their rendition of the facts does not fly as it's not legally cognizable. Without an attorney and after an incident, keep your mouth shut.

Pretty ridiculous. Cns shots "stop" the threat by stopping the heart or otherwise compromising the major organs or systems. Telling a jury that you didnt intend to kill when you dumped a magazine into the a zone is going to sound goofy.

[GW]

Hi fellow Calgunners ,
Have you ever thought or did put non less or non lethal round in your gun?.
is there any good less lethal 9mm in the market.
Thanks

Silly concept.
If you feel threatened enough to shoot someone then you need to hit the bad guy as hard as you can. Rubber bullets are for police/riot control
NOT personal defense.

[Bansh88]

Anything less than lethal is taking a chance with your own life.

How do you know if you will hit the person with that first round? What is that round is the only one that hits?

If you're that worried about the legal consequences, you can always roll over and take your beating, stabbing or death like a good progressive. I mean, the guy is only going after you because of social inequality anyhow

[GW]

In a gun fight, shooting to stop the threat is the same as shooting to kill, should the bad guy somehow survive, good for him...what is your plan, shoot each limb until he cannot fight back?

Your language would get you convicted in any court.

You went after the perp with intent to kill him?
You shoot to stop the bad guy. That should be your sole intent. If the bad guy dies as a result, well golly, that's terrible. because your intent was to stop him.

[Quiet]

Using a firearm is considered deadly force, not matter what type of ammunition is used.

In order to be justified in using deadly force is in self defense, you need to be in fear for your life/serious bodily injury or in fear of someone's else life/serious bodily injury.

What a DA may question when considering to charge you with a crime...
If you are in fear for your life, then why are you using less lethal ammunition?

[burr2of4]

i like to load mu 357 with 2 rounds of snake shot followed by 4 hollow points. different loads for different purposes.

[davidb]

Your language would get you convicted in any court.

You went after the perp with intent to kill him?
You shoot to stop the bad guy. That should be your sole intent. If the bad guy dies as a result, well golly, that's terrible. because your intent was to stop him.

Bs...you dont shoot a guy multiple times in the chest with the hopes of changing his mind. Let's be realistic here.

[teg33]

OP, a blank round is non lethal, then you can use the gun as hammer to stop the thread

[IVC]

Bs...you dont shoot a guy multiple times in the chest with the hopes of changing his mind. Let's be realistic here.

"Stopping" doesn't entail "changing bad guy's mind," but physically stopping him.

Sure it can happen out of his free will when being shot at (in which case your self defense was successful and if you keep shooting you become the aggressor,) but far more common is causing an injury that physically stops the threat even if the attacker survives.

[Trriemferent]

try this and let us know how it works out for you.
if youre still around

[IVC]

How do you know if you will hit the person with that first round?

More importantly, the first round now becomes an equivalent of a warning shot. Warning shots are not a good idea and are mostly illegal. The same reasoning applies here.