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[AJAX22]

I've been an anarcho-capitalist for a number of years... I find that it is the phillosophy which most closly mirrors my own.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-capitalism

but since no one has ever heard of an Anarcho-capitalist, I tell people I'm a Libertarian.

[NeoWeird]

Mix both stories and you find out EXACTLY what happened:

Pulled over for no plates. (Legal).

Driver refused to give license so police had them exit the car and handcuffed him. (Legal).

Passenger asked to exit the vehicle also. (Legal).

Trunk was opened to get wheelchair. Machette in plain site. Police now have probable cause to search the vehicle further and ask about the case. (Legal).

Driver has four warrants. Cops search his belongings. (Legal).

Gun found loaded. Kid arrested. (Legal).


If it were them hassling based on race the passanger would be in trouble also. That's not the case. The passanger was let go because the problem was the warrants and the loaded gun. The idiot is just trying to cop out his stupidity on the race card.

[pizzatorte]

and now so do we, thanks.

Uh oh, now ray's onto you, blackwater.

The nature of government has profound philosophical implications. Most self-described anarchists are just ******* punks who want to do violence to those around them. That low-IQ trash would latch on to something they don't understand is hardly unique. None of that has any bearing whatsoever on the philosophical view of the nature of governance.

[bwiese]

This is an absolutely perfect example of a gun case that should be run away from ASAP.

What's worrisome is if some yokel lawyer starts raising RKBA claims.

[Matt C]

and now so do we, thanks.

You are welcome! Did you want to debate the merits of anarchism, or just make a vague comment?

The nature of government has profound philosophical implications. Most self-described anarchists are just ******* punks who want to do violence to those around them. That low-IQ trash would latch on to something they don't understand is hardly unique. None of that has any bearing whatsoever on the philosophical view of the nature of governance.

Agreed.

[tombinghamthegreat]

This is an absolutely perfect example of a gun case that should be run away from ASAP.

What's worrisome is if some yokel lawyer starts raising RKBA claims.

There is a very high chance that the RKBA issue will come up IMO.

[Pvt. Cowboy]

You are welcome! Did you want to debate the merits of anarchism, or just make a vague comment?

Please. Just, stop. No.

Let's not speak of it again, either.

[trinydex]

I've been an anarcho-capitalist for a number of years... I find that it is the phillosophy which most closly mirrors my own.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-capitalism

but since no one has ever heard of an Anarcho-capitalist, I tell people I'm a Libertarian.

i wonder how many people have heard of libertarian socialism. i think that's actually what most people think of as utopian communism/socialism except the actual utopian communism/socialism is nothing like that.

[trinydex]

You are welcome! Did you want to debate the merits of anarchism, or just make a vague comment?

i wanna debate the merits of anarchism

firstly in an anarchistic society... how would you develop the cooperation and organization necessary to make all the cogs in this machine we call society run?

[Matt C]

i wanna debate the merits of anarchism

firstly in an anarchistic society... how would you develop the cooperation and organization necessary to make all the cogs in this machine we call society run?

Which cog in particular?

[nagorb]

Anarchist = kid searching for an identity, and something to make them feel important.

Kind of like "rebels" that all ride the same type of motorcycle, but aren't patcholders in a club.

so you need a patch to know who you are?

[trinydex]

Which cog in particular?

well really all of them, but the glaring problem i see is that statistically most people are not prone to or capable of personal protection. this is why so much today's personal protection "responsibilities" are sloughed off onto the police.

without all the cogs in place how do we take delivery of our ipods and dell laptops? which nerds are going to survive long enough to develop the firmware for these electronics? which geeks are going to be well protected enough such that the next advance in chip printing technology can be developed?

i suppose working for a company will get you protection benefits in addition to health benefits...?

when i think anarchist i typically think of a deconstructed society. you've added capitalist to it as your philosophy so that suggests some sort corporate dominated survival of the richest? there come issues of what is defined as rich... and ultimately in such a socioeconomic architecture it would boil down to how many people you control. yay for feifdom?

i'm also supposing that this is unadultered capitalism? how do you address monopolies? how do you address corporate coercion of workforce (especially in light of a monopoly)? how do you address national security? how do you address nation?

i got lots more questions

[pizzatorte]

The absence of government doesn't imply the absence of order, only the absence of coercion.

[trinydex]

The absence of government doesn't imply the absence of order, only the absence of coercion.

how can you gaurantee the absence of coercion just because there's no government? i also didn't suggest an absence of order... but certain circumstances do arise...

[Matt C]

well really all of them, but the glaring problem i see is that statistically most people are not prone to or capable of personal protection. this is why so much today's personal protection "responsibilities" are sloughed off onto the police.

So what did we do before we had a police state? Pop quiz - How many cops were the in 1825?

without all the cogs in place how do we take delivery of our ipods and dell laptops?

The same way you do now, buy it at a store or have it shipped by a private shipping company.

which nerds are going to survive long enough to develop the firmware for these electronics? which geeks are going to be well protected enough such that the next advance in chip printing technology can be developed?

This "blood in the streets" fantasy reminds me of what Brady says about CCWs. It just won't happen.

i suppose working for a company will get you protection benefits in addition to health benefits...?

Just like it does now...

when i think anarchist i typically think of a deconstructed society.

Not really, you are just eliminating compulsory government. All other "constructions" of society would remain intact.


you've added capitalist to it as your philosophy so that suggests some sort corporate dominated survival of the richest?

Not really, more like "success for the successful".

there come issues of what is defined as rich... and ultimately in such a socioeconomic architecture it would boil down to how many people you control. yay for feifdom?

Not rich, successful. Success being defined as profitable production. Eventually some people would choose to be lead by others, but that is because most people are sheep. Ultimately I would rather live in a feudalistic society where the most efficient rule than as a slave to a bureaucracy which steals what I earn with my labor and gives it to those who don't want to work.

i'm also supposing that this is unadultered capitalism? how do you address monopolies?

Monopolies should not exist in unregulated trade since there are few barriers for competition and there are substitutes for almost all goods. Most real monopolies are actually created by government intervention.

how do you address corporate coercion of workforce (especially in light of a monopoly)?

No reason why you can't quit... Maybe you could be more specific?

how do you address national security?

How did we address it in 1776?

i got lots more questions

Go for it. Try to be specific about the situations you are concerned about and it will be easier to address them with specifics.