CCW in California

[Steve O]

i can't remember them all but one i remember was an older guy bout i'd guess early 50's and it was something along the lines of inexperienced owners getting to heated with a weapon on them causing more harm then good. he gave me an example and i quote "take these ghetto kids for example who have not got caught doing anything illegal right away so they legally could conceal carry" so i asked him "don’t you think if they where going to do so they would do it regardless of laws?" and he responded " no not all of them would, the ones who are in real deep would. but the kids who do it for show and just to belong to a group would do it legally just to feel like there rapper idles. and then they would get heated and more then likely end up hurting people"

the only reson i remeber this so clearly is cause i agree with his view on this. and i could definatly see this happen.

some other guys where just saying i like guns but i don’t like to think of anyone being able to carry them when ever they feel like it. and i replied "so your a demi sheep?" and they proceeded to flip me off and walk away.

THEN you got guys like the people who work in "the gun room" only people who been in there will truly know what i mean. although one guy there is decent and cool enough. has a sleeve tattoo talked to him and he is a decent guy.

Problem solved.
Real easy and simple.

Allow NO ONE who has EVER been convicted of a (violent) crime even a Misdemeanor to be approved for a CCW.

I most cases of PVP "puke vs puke" both defendants have a previous criminal record, be it small. So automatically they would be not be apprived for CCW.

So perhaps there is a new young rising hip hop star who doest not yet have a criminal record and he is approved for his CCW.

It's just a matter of time!

So in this case when Hommie G, flashes his nickel plated 9 to his rival, Biggie Money B. in front of a crowded club. First offense, he louses it all.

While discrete gentleman like us, keep our peace holstered for a day when we need it.

[CitaDeL]

The law makes better men of criminals, than of gentlemen...

While discrete gentlem[e]n like us, keep our peace holstered [hidden] for a day when we need it.

(Slaps forehead repeatedly)

I don't see anything gentlemenly about keeping your intent hidden, or asking permission from authorities to do what is your natural right to do.

The law makes gentlemen who are conscious of their civic duty to protect themselves and their family into criminals- the rough edges of society feel no need to submit themselves to the law or the authorities for approval and carry whatever they like for whatever purposes their minds can imagine.

So in effect, advancing "CCW" is ensuring good people submit to gun control while those inclined to violence ignore restrictions and enjoy owning and carrying their arms. Licensing turns armed self-defense upside down- those who should be armed (and are not) are at the mercy of those unfettered by government impositions. The criminals are free, and "CCW" licensees are bound.

[dark45]

Steve O - I agree but when hommie G shows it off it could be in anger and fire and miss a few rounds landing them in a few others. that was the mans point, and i got that and agreed thats bad ju ju but it is that hip hop *** holes right.

CitaDel - as i fundamentally agree with you, i also disagree, the licence as i know is a tracking and control device..... wait there isnt any other reason we need a CCW. as long as the gun is mine and im legal why cant i carry with out it? oh right scared media sheep.

[Steve O]

interesting point. no one wants to bullet form some a hole. But thinking hard about the subject i really think that those guys would **** them selfs some how and not even qualify for a CCW in the first place. I'm betting my reputation (lol) that they already have a criminal record.

Yea honestly i think may believe in a small margin of gun control.