This is how free states do it.

[advocatusdiaboli]

they don't have a Roster or AWB.
And now they have carry reciprocity AND can buy suppressors.

And even better than all that, they get this:

Minnesota residents may now purchase firearms in any state in which it is allowed by that state’s law and the Gun Control Act of 1968.

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[ElvenSoul]

The whole Midwest has gone pro guns! All but Chicago!

[edgerly779]

No state may circumvent or set aside federal law. Suppressors may be be legal under state law but not federal law without proper licensing. No person may purchase firearms out of state without going thru ffl.

[Capybara]

Those are the types of headlines one reads in a free state. We'll never see those in this place.

[advocatusdiaboli]

No state may circumvent or set aside federal law. Suppressors may be be legal under state law but not federal law without proper licensing. No person may purchase firearms out of state without going thru ffl.

Umm, read the article, their law makes it clear they have to comply with federal law for suppressors just as in all other free states. and of course the have to comply with federal law regarding FFL transactions, but the point is they have no ROSTER

But CA law prohibits from your federal right to a suppressor and the federal right to buy any damn pistols or .50 cal rifle you want.

Are you so cowed and bullied (Stockholm Syndrome admiring your repressors) that you no longer get the difference?

[GreaterFool]

A man can dream.

[elk hunter]

A man can dream.

It is the reality in some places, not a dream.

[SheepDog78]

Why dream? Wake up and GTFO of California. This is a big part of why I plan to end up in Nevada some time soon.

[SonofWWIIDI]

[GreaterFool]

Why dream? Wake up and GTFO of California. This is a big part of why I plan to end up in Nevada some time soon.

Ok, you do what you do. I wish you the best. Sincerely!

[bsg]

great to see good things happening in minnesota.

[EspoMan]

My cousin just moved to Montana. Man I wish I could live there

[PyroFox79]

It seems more like the reason he signed it was because if he didnt then it would have caused a government shutdown. So it was a no win situation with the governor and he went with the path of least resistance.

[ROMEOHOTEL]

We'll never see those in this place.

I really have to take this to task. If you believe your statement to be true and not simply rhetoric then the fact that you are in CA means that you accept the way the laws are now. That is in the least.

That one should accept the restrictions et al on US Constitutionally protected rights is tantamount to those who flee the state rather then join the fight. I think most people will agree that this state is very worth the fight.

Comments such as shown in the quote always make me think of what, say General Patton would say circa 1944 when victory in Europe was not assured. I'm nearly convinced he would slap whoever uttered such discouraging words.

[advocatusdiaboli]

I really have to take this to task. If you believe your statement to be true and not simply rhetoric then the fact that you are in CA means that you accept the way the laws are now. That is in the least.

Life isn't fair and you don't always win no mater how passionate or hard you try if the difference between victory and defeat is out of your hands and in the hands of your adversaries.

Most of us here try as hard as we can. The distinction you fail to grasp is this: if you efforts can win the day if you try hard enough, then it makes sense to try hard enough and then some. But if the victory is out of your hands, if you adversaries dominate the situation, then it isn't how hard you try, it's how hard you try to make them give up the fight, how much you can erode their morale and will to fight, or how to rally more support for your side to change the order of battle.

In our case that means work hard but also work smarter: work to defeat the Democratic legislative dominance, get corporate sponsors who believe in 2A to leave the state or not do business with it (like Magpul did elsewhere), ambush them, flank them, erode public support for more gun control, increase public support for repealing gun control (like Minnesota did which is why I posted this), and rally the courts to our cause.

They tried real hard at The Alamo too: to that last man. It didn't matter because they simply didn't have the men or materiel to win. Ever. They still tried and we try too, but it is apparently not enough any more to just try really hard and pretend that we "got this" if we just try harder. We don't need a General George Pickett at Gettysburg solution. we need something more.

The Viet Cong beat us not in numbers, training, or weaponry: they simply outlasted our politicians and citizens will to fight. That is how you beat an adversary bigger than you. You gather allies and target their will to fight.

We are at the Alamo in California. We need reinforcements from the courts and legislators because right now, we are overrun. Broken arrow.

That one should accept the restrictions et al on US Constitutionally protected rights is tantamount to those who flee the state rather then join the fight. I think most people will agree that this state is very worth the fight.

Nothing wrong with fleeing a fight against tyranny you cannot win. The people that founded this nation did exactly that from Europe.

It is an honorable thing or are you saying they all should have stayed in England under the King?

They came to the colonies because, in the beginning, colonists were free compared to English subjects. When the colonies prospered however, King George wanted "in" and that started trouble.

Were Jefferson, Adams, et al, cowards in you eyes? Should man not have a right to retreat from tyranny and live free elsewhere and then separate themselves from the tyranny as in the founding of this nation?

Comments such as shown in the quote always make me think of what, say General Patton would say circa 1944 when victory in Europe was not assured. I'm nearly convinced he would slap whoever uttered such discouraging words.

No one should have generally said that in public to deflate morale and if they did should have been reprimanded strongly for it.

But it certainly wasn't assured.

The Germans muffed it on D-Day and several times after that and the US eventually outplayed them due to Hitler's demand that he be the one decision maker and his fighting on two fronts. But it was close several times and the Allies had their failures too like Market Garden and, nearly, the Bulge.

Privately, many generals at many times were worried in fact and expressed that it is now well-known.