Flame letter from a calgunner

[pullnshoot25]

This guy signed up for the express purpose of sending me a flame letter about open carry. Here is the letter .

I assume you were picked on in school so much to the point you now have to carry an open firearm into the mall to prove a point? I'm a supporter of the right to have a firearm but you are what us regular people refer to as raticle. You are the prime example of why they might eventually outlaw all firearms.

You want to carry a gun? Join the military. Although they'd problably throw you out. You're an idiot.

Grow up and get a real job.
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Handle is crazedeaglesfan.

What a maroon.

[Experimentalist]

Some folks fail to see the long term goals.

A symptom of myopic thinking, IMHO.

[USN CHIEF]

That is pretty sad for someone to do that, especially a fellow Cal Gunner. Can't believe that they don't have the guts to post something like that in the OP here on Cal Guns. Just shows how bitter some people are.

While I don't agree with your hunting methods with the raccoons I do enjoy to read your OC stories. Keep it up bro.

[Knight]

What's a raticle?

[bubbagump]

raticle

He needs to learn how to spell.

FAIL

[odysseus]

Wonder what the IP addy is....

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[gcvt]

"raticle"

...searching Websters....searching Websters. Nope, nothing

[pullnshoot25]

"raticle"

...searching Websters....searching Websters. Nope, nothing

Yeah, I told him he was a blithering moron.

[melensdad]

Some folks fail to see the long term goals.

A symptom of myopic thinking, IMHO.

I hope you can solidify my armchair logic , or change my mind here . . . so, "Why are people concerned about being concealed?"

Aside from any potential tactical advantage of surprise or avoiding the dreaded gun grab, IMHO I feel concealed carry does more overall harm than good when looking at the long term/bigger picture.

I say this for several reasons:

1) As Americans, we should be proud of our RIGHT to legally and responsibly carry. Most citizens around the world can't carry at all, and if we don't turn the tide against those Americans who find open carry to be "socially unacceptable" or "discomforting," we too soon shall join the rest of the world and you won't have to worry about concealing it. To me, concealing equates to slinking around almost shamefully, and amounts to no more than allowing the government and political correctness to subdue you to into being embarrassed that you carry. We are on the verge of no carry at all, and once they turn the corner on that, there's no going back.

2) Over 10,000 people in my county alone applied for carry permits. I would bet for most of them it's a knee-jerk reaction to our local crime scene, as well as it being their first time owning or handling a firearm. If for no other reason than I don't want a single inexperienced person who happens to have a "paper CCW" opening fire while I'm in range, these people need every opportunity we can give them to learn and discuss the seriousness of their undertaking. By openly carrying in public, we show them it's not shameful or sneaky to be armed, and for those who are interested, we get to discuss guns (yeah!) and educate them about ownership. Every wonder why people who conceal feel compelled to tell someone they see openly carrying that they too are carrying? It's our duty to inform and educate others about why we do, and how they too can learn to defend themselves.

3) From the crime reports we hear about daily in our local news, it's apparent that the thugs we have here living here have zero regard for human life. They'd just as soon kill you for fun as they would take your wallet. They're also not too bright to begin with. That being said, if they walk into a store and see five people and no guns, either they figure, "No one's armed" or "Maybe 2 out of 5 are armed" and they act, figuring they'll take their chances. In most cases, they're right - either the shoppers are not armed, or if they are the concealed carriers are sure keeping their guns hidden since all we hear around here is how the BG's get away all the time. Conversely, if the BG walks into to a store and sees three armed people, he's likely to choose easier game. If he does engage, then he'd forced to choose a first target. If he's successful with his first choice, the other should be able to take him out, or they shouldn't be carrying. In fact, if all three are true shepherds, then they should see what's about to happen before the BG makes his move.

4) Lastly, and I have no proof to back this up (except that I see and read that "most" people who carry have never been in a gunfight on the street), I have to conclude that no matter how you carry, the odds of being killed are very slim. If this is true, and we then assume you open carry, the odds of you getting killed because you didn't have the element of surprise or because someone took your gun away from you and used it on you, though perhaps slightly higher than if you had concealed, would still be extremely low. Therefore, we can conclude that your morning commute is probably more dangerous than open carrying, and that as a lawfully armed citizen you could take that risk and live your whole life doing a ton of good for others (see points # 1 and 2).

Looking at various crime data, shooting reports, etc, its also apparent that 99.9% of the shootings we might be unlucky enough to be involved in would easily solved with a 5 shot revolver and there would likely be 3 unused rounds. So what is the point of carrying double stacked high capacity pistols and a couple back up mags?

[Rob454]

This guy signed up for the express purpose of sending me a flame letter about open carry. Here is the letter .

I assume you were picked on in school so much to the point you now have to carry an open firearm into the mall to prove a point? I'm a supporter of the right to have a firearm but you are what us regular people refer to as raticle. You are the prime example of why they might eventually outlaw all firearms.

You want to carry a gun? Join the military. Although they'd problably throw you out. You're an idiot.

Grow up and get a real job.
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Handle is crazedeaglesfan.

What a maroon.

he mispelled radical with ratical and you mispelled moron with maroon. other than that I personally dont feel the need to OC. if someone wants to do it thats ok too its their choice. I just think its not worth the controversy and the hassle. i rather carry it hidden IF I were to carry a gun.

[MrSlippyFist]

moron

[Bad Voodoo]

if someone wants to do it thats ok too its their choice right.

Fixed it for you.

Myopic indeed.

[762cavalier]

he mispelled radical with ratical and you mispelled moron with maroon. other than that I personally dont feel the need to OC. if someone wants to do it thats ok too its their choice. I just think its not worth the controversy and the hassle. i rather carry it hidden IF I were to carry a gun.

He didn't mis spell it. It's a classic Bugs Bunny quote.

[pullnshoot25]

he mispelled radical with ratical and you mispelled moron with maroon. other than that I personally dont feel the need to OC. if someone wants to do it thats ok too its their choice. I just think its not worth the controversy and the hassle. i rather carry it hidden IF I were to carry a gun.

Maroon is not equivalent with moron, though I use them interchangeably. I got it from an old Bugs Bunny episode (Remember when Yosemite Sam was the pirate? Remember that?)

[Vinz]

he mispelled radical with ratical and you mispelled moron with maroon. other than that I personally dont feel the need to OC. if someone wants to do it thats ok too its their choice. I just think its not worth the controversy and the hassle. i rather carry it hidden IF I were to carry a gun.

He might be right and pullyshoot was making a jokingly reference to Bugs Bunny. "What a maroon"....hee he I like WB humor....note to self, spell check this post...

edit: like he said 17 seconds before I did. DOH!! < Homer Simpson reference...
vinz