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  • caligunner87
    Member
    • Apr 2013
    • 121

    ffl that wont do ppt

    Now let me begin by saying that i am not here to bash anyone but only to gain knowledge, with that being said let me begin, today i met with a fellow calgunner to do a ppt we had discussed meeting at lax shooting range. It was my idea since it was a nice middle ground for us. I have never done a ppt there before and i looked into it and they are a ffl and from what i had understood is that all ffls had to do ppts. So i arrived talked to the guy and he told me he does do ppts, but only for law enforcement..... am i wrong with my assumption or since he technically does do ppts does he have the right to refuse the service to the general public? I guess next time i will do my research better luckily the calgunner i met today was extremely patient and a all out great guy and we went to another shop.
    Thanks ahead of time for everyones words of wisdom
  • #2
    Wes C Addle
    Banned
    • Apr 2015
    • 1867

    from my understanding, FFLs have to do PPTs since you can't do them through anyone else.

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    • #3
      JDay
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Nov 2008
      • 19393

      They're required to do them by law, during normal business hours. They are agents of the state.
      Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

      The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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      • #4
        keenkeen
        Calguns Addict
        • May 2011
        • 6782

        Do they sell guns or just rent them?
        "But far more numerous was the herd of such, Who think too little and who talk too much." -John Dryden

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        • #5
          Librarian
          Admin and Poltergeist
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Oct 2005
          • 44660

          See the sticky in the FFL forum.
          ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

          Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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          • #6
            BigPimping
            CGN Contributor
            • Feb 2010
            • 21459

            Guns Fishing and other stuff will do anything they can to get out of doing one. Even if you walk in there, if someone comes in behind you and wants to buy a firearm they will toss you aside to help the other person.
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            • #7
              M1NM
              Calguns Addict
              • Oct 2011
              • 7966

              They are required to do them by law. The only out is they don't have to do handguns if they don't sell handguns.

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              • #8
                caligunner87
                Member
                • Apr 2013
                • 121

                It was for a rifle and they didnt even bother to ask they just said no. Oh well at least a lesson learned. I thought my assumption was correct.

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                • #9
                  skosh69
                  Veteran Member
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 4290

                  There's a gun shop in El Cerrito, Old West Gun Room, that hates doing PPT's, so much that you have to make an appt and that it takes approx. 2 hrs to make the transfer.

                  2 hrs, really?

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                  • #10
                    boomer135
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2012
                    • 580

                    Yes, I get that all shops "should do a ppt" but as a responsible buyer/seller shouldn't you call ahead and make sure all is good to go?

                    Just good business practice IMO.

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                    • #11
                      pacrat
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • May 2014
                      • 10284

                      Was it the cop behind the counter at LAX that refused to follow the law?

                      Well, except for other cops, of course.

                      Call DOJ BOF and rat them out.

                      JM2c

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                      • #12
                        JDay
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 19393

                        Originally posted by boomer135
                        Yes, I get that all shops "should do a ppt" but as a responsible buyer/seller shouldn't you call ahead and make sure all is good to go?

                        Just good business practice IMO.
                        No. They're required by law to do them whenever they're open. If they don't want to do PPTs they should go into a different line of business. In fact it was the FFLs in this state who supported the law that mandated we do transfers via PPT.
                        Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

                        The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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                        • #13
                          steel30
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2013
                          • 2042

                          I did a PPT recently at a shop in LA and the guy behind the counter complained how he doesn't make $$ and what a pain the PPT's are...made us feel real good. Keep in mind there was NO ONE in the shop and it took him over an hour, between watching the TV and selling me a $10 lock...oh well, live and learn and don't go back.
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                          • #14
                            boomer135
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2012
                            • 580

                            Originally posted by JDay
                            No. They're required by law to do them whenever they're open. If they don't want to do PPTs they should go into a different line of business. In fact it was the FFLs in this state who supported the law that mandated we do transfers via PPT.

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                            • #15
                              JohnnyBeagle
                              Junior Member
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 58

                              I've never had a good experience at LAX. Rat them out

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