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  • #16
    09cs
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2013
    • 1704

    Originally posted by smle-man
    Try a place to shoot. Less formal than Oaktree but not as crowded especially earlier in the morning or mid afternoon. Steel rifle plates to 400 yds. No steel jacketed rounds. Nice ranges, nice owner, great staff.
    Been there once, only complaint I have about it is its a far drive for me. Hence why I go to Oak Tree.

    I've only been to their rifle range. What are their pistol range(s) like? And do they have trap/skeet?
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    • #17
      chairmnofthboard
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2013
      • 618

      Isn't oak tree the company that made that smart gun? If so, **** them.

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      • #18
        zerodameaon
        Member
        • Mar 2015
        • 243

        Originally posted by chairmnofthboard
        Isn't oak tree the company that made that smart gun? If so, **** them.
        They did not make it, they sold it for a while or something like that. The company that made the gun is based in Germany.

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        • #19
          KrisDSA
          Veteran Member
          • Apr 2014
          • 2850

          I don't do any business with them because of the SmartGun Bull****
          WildLeaks.org -
          Former Professional Strangler and Shooting Champ

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          • #20
            Euphoria526
            Veteran Member
            • Jun 2012
            • 3812

            Originally posted by Moto
            You're a schmuck.
            Are you hitting on me?
            Originally posted by Jimi Jah
            I punch paper only because it is illegal to punch people.
            Originally posted by elpaisa1
            I think flatulence is a more serious crime. I think it should be a misdemeanor with a 1000 dollar fine or 6 months of jail. It should be a felony if done near an open flame.

            Originally posted by Euphoria526
            I'm so awesome, I think I'll quote myself

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            • #21
              The Gleam
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Feb 2011
              • 12946

              These images have left an indelible impression on my sense memory, and one that has been so hard to shake merely for the fact that Oak Tree never gave a genuine explanation or apology, nor lent any first-hand statements to squash the doubt that arose from several contradicting and conflicting statements made by others that nullified their grapevine delivered excuses. I was once a regular at Oak Tree, even for firearm purchases and PPTs. I have not crossed their dusty, dirty, parking lot since this all unfolded - and won't until some form of detailed, honest explanation is given - or until they sell their range to somebody else (and hopefully that won't be Armatix!).





              Last edited by The Gleam; 04-30-2015, 9:22 AM.
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              Originally posted by Librarian
              What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

              If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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              • #22
                The Gleam
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Feb 2011
                • 12946

                Originally posted by Aldemar
                I'm not trying to start a fight over morals here, but nobody that I know is 100% true to their core beliefs.
                Correct. Nobody that you know.

                And confirmed; you and I have never met, and you don't know me.
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                Originally posted by Librarian
                What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

                If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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                • #23
                  I Swan
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 8770

                  It seems that if Feinstein or Satan ran a range that some calgunners would be willing to go there as long as it was convenient to their location and the price was right and it was a nice range.

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                  • #24
                    zerodameaon
                    Member
                    • Mar 2015
                    • 243

                    Originally posted by I Swan
                    Feinstein or Satan.
                    Are those two not the same?

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                    • #25
                      I Swan
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 8770

                      She's 2nd in command. Lucifer is #1. People promoting smart gun technology at Oak tree are the demons

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                      • #26
                        zerodameaon
                        Member
                        • Mar 2015
                        • 243

                        Originally posted by I Swan
                        She's 2nd in command. Lucifer is #1. People promoting smart gun technology at Oak tree are the demons
                        And Bloomy pays to keep hells fires going.

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                        • #27
                          Kestryll
                          Head Janitor
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 21602

                          Originally posted by The Gleam
                          These images have left an indelible impression on my sense memory, and one that has been so hard to shake merely for the fact that Oak Tree never gave a genuine explanation or apology, nor lent any first-hand statements to squash the doubt that arose from several contradicting and conflicting statements made by others that nullified their grapevine delivered excuses. I was once a regular at Oak Tree, even for firearm purchases and PPTs. I have not crossed their dusty, dirty, parking lot since this all unfolded - and won't until some form of detailed, honest explanation is given - or until they sell their range to somebody else (and hopefully that won't be Armatix!).





                          Yup, it's CGN.

                          No info, no background, no details but who needs those right?
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                          • #28
                            The Gleam
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 12946

                            Originally posted by Kestryll
                            Yup, it's CGN.

                            No info, no background, no details but who needs those right?
                            I've followed the story from the very beginning, saw all of the info posted, the background, and details as they unfolded; including several of your own posts on the matter revealing what you were advised. Those threads are still active on CGN and anyone can read them. Most everyone here has done so as well.

                            However, much of it was relayed by third-parties, and none of that was definitive enough from what I read or saw, which lacked info, lacked background, and lacked details - where Oak Tree's absence on addressing the matter directly to this day, the contradictions that continue to levitate, and nothing definitive on their part to refute the reasonable doubt about their involvement has ever been put forth to entirely squash that doubt or minimize the impact of those photos.

                            I've kept an open mind about their involvement or lack thereof, and would love to see them be more forthcoming. However, they scuttled sheepishly away from the issue with hopes that it would just go away on its own. If there is new information or a new revelation on their part as of late, I'm all ears. I would actually like that to be so.
                            Last edited by The Gleam; 04-30-2015, 2:43 PM.
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                            Originally posted by Librarian
                            What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

                            If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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                            • #29
                              Mitch
                              Mostly Harmless
                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 6574

                              Originally posted by 09cs
                              Been there once, only complaint I have about it is its a far drive for me. Hence why I go to Oak Tree.
                              Everywhere is a long drive for me. I need to get out to A Place to Shoot, I hear it's pretty good.

                              I'd never seen this photo before:



                              So Padilla is so clueless about firearms she's never heard of Rule #3?
                              Originally posted by cockedandglocked
                              Getting called a DOJ shill has become a rite of passage around here. I've certainly been called that more than once - I've even seen Kes get called that. I haven't seen Red-O get called that yet, which is very suspicious to me, and means he's probably a DOJ shill.

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                              • #30
                                SILENT GUNMAN
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2013
                                • 1468

                                You guys pay WAY too much for a range membership. My local range is only $50 a year, $200 for 5 years or $500 for lifetime. It's $10 a day to shoot for non members and only $5 a day for members. Membership also get you $5 off your match fees at the hogue range. IDPA match is only $25 instead of $30.
                                "Suck on my machine gun" (Ted Nugent)

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                                "9mm is for killing Europeans. For truly dangerous people you need a .45."
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                                I showed up naked to ur house with cake. But you weren't home. YOur wife maced me. And I was arrested

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