Tell your friend to get a CA ID and use it instead of his license to buy guns. Those tickets shouldn't matter then.
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Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison
The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850) -
a CA ID has the exact same number on it as your license, so that may not be a way around the ticket thing, it might still pop up...honestly, having a ticket shouldn't be a prerequisite for denial anyway but....CALIFORNIA
btw, the facepalm is directed at our state, not you JDay
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And if you flee to Mexico then you get to buy your guns from the DOJ who is doing so illegally. Which to me is the ultimate irony.
Good luck OP.NRA Certified Rifle Instructor
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It sounds like the charge was dismissed under a PC1000 diversion program. That is different than being reduced to a misdemeanor.
Under PC1000, the subject does not even have to acknowledge the arrest even happened unless applying to become a peace officer, a California Lottery employee or running for public office.
If this is the case, it sounds like the court did not notify DOJ about the dismissal. It seems this is pretty common, and one of the noted flaws in the Armed Prohibited Persons program.Just taking up space in (what is no longer) the second-worst small town in California.Comment
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That was helpful.
I dunno. For a site that is dominated by people complaining constantly about the Nanny State, there are are a lot of wannabe nannies here, wagging their fingers at anyone they think warrants a finger-wag.Last edited by Mitch; 04-03-2015, 7:35 AM.Originally posted by cockedandglockedGetting called a DOJ shill has become a rite of passage around here. I've certainly been called that more than once - I've even seen Kes get called that. I haven't seen Red-O get called that yet, which is very suspicious to me, and means he's probably a DOJ shill.Comment
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God I wish I could act like a child for this that's funny.Calm it.
Granted both replies were a little sharp but you acting like a child isn't going to help your standing here, or get you any sympathy or help.
Their point was YOU did cause this. Your own actions. How do you know it was some "lazy government worker"? There could be a slew of different reasons why the information didn't get communicated to the bureau of firearms. You're not a victim. If you are, it's a victim of someone doing their job.
Calm down.
That was not there point and them trying to nock me down while I'm venting isn't a good idea for anyoneComment
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I assumed cause I did read up. I didn't get put on a delay I was denied 1 day before I could pick up the gun.You're only assuming the DOJ worker was lazy and didn't call. Maybe you should read up on what the actual background process is. It's a lot more involved than you'd think. And if the DOJ agent can't get the records from the court within the DROS timeframe then they have to deny you. It could be that the courts simply didn't get back to the DOJ because they're understaffed and your case was considered low priority.
But seriously, read up on the testimony for the court case regarding the 10 day wait that CGF filed. It contains every detail of the DROS process and you can find out where the error was and help correct it. Or you can make assumptions and gripe online, your choice.Comment
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THANK YOU,It sounds like the charge was dismissed under a PC1000 diversion program. That is different than being reduced to a misdemeanor.
Under PC1000, the subject does not even have to acknowledge the arrest even happened unless applying to become a peace officer, a California Lottery employee or running for public office.
If this is the case, it sounds like the court did not notify DOJ about the dismissal. It seems this is pretty common, and one of the noted flaws in the Armed Prohibited Persons program.
That was a great response after all the others. It wasn't pc1000 it was prop 36 my charge were already a misdemeanor. (possession of controlled substance personal use)
This really is just miss notification and its aggravatingComment
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ok time.to clear things up
I started this to get help and the second I vent some of you try to put me down!? What is that your way of feeling better?
The bottom line is this system is messed up, I fixed my wrong doing did what they wanted me to do and yet because of a horrible system and most likely a lazy most likely liberal worker I got screwed. <= see that guys its called being mad and venting a little.
Do not reply to this board if all. You want to do is tell me I did bad. No **** I did bad. Or that I need to own up to the consequences because I have once 7 years ago and once again now as I go through the hoops that shouldn't be there not to.mention the costs.
ow back on topic I will be updating this board as I find out more. That way anyone with my issue or just dros denial issues can of something to read.Comment
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If it entered as an ID and not a DL it should work. Unpaid tickets get you a DMV reject because your license gets suspended. Your ID cannot be suspended.a CA ID has the exact same number on it as your license, so that may not be a way around the ticket thing, it might still pop up...honestly, having a ticket shouldn't be a prerequisite for denial anyway but....CALIFORNIA
btw, the facepalm is directed at our state, not you JDay
Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison
The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)Comment
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Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison
The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)Comment
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That's 100% correct. I am carrying both CA ID and CA Driver Licence in my wallet. However I didn't use both for my DROS. Instead, i used DL and DMV Registration.
Btw, good luck to you OP. Don't let your past decide your future.
Keep us posted.Serva me. Servabo te.Comment
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