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  • #16
    Baeleron
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2013
    • 615

    Buy a lock separately beforehand. Take it to the lgs along with the receipt, and use that to avoid having to purchase another lock. Then return the lock later for a refund. Problem solved, if you don't mind a little extra hassle. You don't even need to unpackage the lock.

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    • #17
      GreggieBoy
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • Dec 2012
      • 918

      Did a PPT in 2013 and the revolver had a trigger lock on it when we went into to do the PPT. Was told I'd have to purchase another gun lock as part of the PPT. Did it then and there. Went back after the waiting period and picked up the gun and gun lock. The gun lock was still in the plastic bag it came in. Very strange.
      NRA Life Member
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      • #18
        codypaint77
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2011
        • 695

        What do you mean?

        Originally posted by Librarian
        That's only correct for CALIFORNIA law.

        FEDERAL law demands the separate lock for handguns, because BATF will not - although they should! - accept the CA safe affidavit. Again, see the wiki link posted above.
        I'm buying a Ruger .44 mag out of state, I do not need to buy a lock for it. My safe at home will suffice. What does the Fed law have to do with it?

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        • #19
          Condorguns
          Still lost in the desert
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Dec 2007
          • 3302

          Originally posted by codypaint77
          I'm buying a Ruger .44 mag out of state, I do not need to buy a lock for it. My safe at home will suffice. What does the Fed law have to do with it?
          It's very simple. As a FFL we are required to follow both state and federal laws.

          To satisfy the Feds your handgun will either come with an approved lock, you will supply an approved lock with a receipt showing it was bought less than 30 days ago, or you will buy a lock at the time of the transfer.
          You, you, and you: Panic. The rest of you, come with me.
          Incoming fire has the right of way.

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          • #20
            Librarian
            Admin and Poltergeist
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Oct 2005
            • 44653

            Originally posted by codypaint77
            I'm buying a Ruger .44 mag out of state, I do not need to buy a lock for it. My safe at home will suffice. What does the Fed law have to do with it?
            Read the wiki link - that's why I wrote the article: locks are a topic often misunderstood.
            ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

            Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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            • #21
              rolomac
              Junior Member
              • Apr 2013
              • 31

              so - - - Am I right that the sticking point seems to be just the safe affidavit? California will accept it but the feds will not? But in the case of a handgun purchase/transfer ownership of a safe can be proven to the feds by presentation of a receipt for its purchase? This is weird!

              rolomac

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              • #22
                Librarian
                Admin and Poltergeist
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Oct 2005
                • 44653

                Originally posted by rolomac
                so - - - Am I right that the sticking point seems to be just the safe affidavit? California will accept it but the feds will not? But in the case of a handgun purchase/transfer ownership of a safe can be proven to the feds by presentation of a receipt for its purchase? This is weird!

                rolomac
                No, cannot be proven. BATF has not written a reg to allow accepting a safe, and they refuse to accept CA's doc.
                ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

                Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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                • #23
                  rolomac
                  Junior Member
                  • Apr 2013
                  • 31

                  got it ! thanks

                  rolomac

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