New Ivermectin study dropped

[blkoutdb]

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/higher-ivermectin-dose-longer-duration-still-futile-covid-trial-finds

A randomized, controlled trial (RCT) shows that even at a higher dose and longer treatment duration, the antimalarial drug ivermectin didn't shorten the time to a sustained recovery from COVID-19.

Havent seen many people talk about this or the other covid cures that were being toted for so long. Thought you guys and gals would appreciate updates

[Scota4570]

My body, my choice?

The same outfit had this on their website,

Previous COVID-19 may slash severe illness at reinfection by 89%

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/previous-covid-19-may-slash-severe-illness-reinfection-89

Recently John Campbell had a youtube video about Papua new guinea and their covid situation. There is no situation, they are having virtually no deaths. The do not vaccinate. They take a lot of ivermectin. Their covid cases were small and short lived. Association is not causation. Still it feeds my confirmation bias.

I took Ivermectin when I had BA2. I lived to tell about it.

Ivermectin is cheap and out of patent. I may be the silver bullet. We will not be allowed to know. You will not get a prescription because there is no money to be made. Make no mistake medicine is a business. If someone is helped that is of secondary importance. If people are killed that is the cost of business.

[tsmithson]

The 2015 Nobel Peace Prize wonder drug that saves millions of life’s around the world doesn’t cure everything?

That’s a swift kick in the pants.

If I had to choose between an experimental, boi-weapon, nanoparticle, spike protein, Covid-19(implied vaccine), forced stab in the back that doesn’t prevent Covid-19 infections.
OR
Ivermectin……

“Ivermectin for me Please”.

[chezum]

Where's the ZINC and Vitamin C

Ivermectin is a zinc ionophore. In order to stop viruses it requires vitamin C and zinc. Look up, 'zinc ionophore'.

In the 'peer reviewed' studies that 'prove' ivermectin does nothing against viruses they always refuse to allow anyone to have vitamin C or zinc. Then they proudly announce ivermectin 'failed' because they expect you to be idiots that do not know what 'zinc ionophore' means.

Other zinc ionophores include Hydroxychloroquine and Quercetin! DUH!

[Spanky8601]

Ivermectin is a zinc ionophore. In order to stop viruses it requires vitamin C and zinc. Look up, 'zinc ionophore'.

In the 'peer reviewed' studies that 'prove' ivermectin does nothing against viruses they always refuse to allow anyone to have vitamin C or zinc. Then they proudly announce ivermectin 'failed' because they expect you to be idiots that do not know what 'zinc ionophore' means.

Other zinc ionophores include Hydroxychloroquine and Quercetin! DUH!

Yep. I wonder who "funded" this exacting study? Perhaps NIH, CDC or Mr Fauci.

[stonefly-2]

Ivermectin is a zinc ionophore. In order to stop viruses it requires vitamin C and zinc. Look up, 'zinc ionophore'.

In the 'peer reviewed' studies that 'prove' ivermectin does nothing against viruses they always refuse to allow anyone to have vitamin C or zinc. Then they proudly announce ivermectin 'failed' because they expect you to be idiots that do not know what 'zinc ionophore' means.

Other zinc ionophores include Hydroxychloroquine and Quercetin! DUH!

Ivermectin's function as an ionophore for Zinc is only a secondary mechanism unlike with Quercetin and Hydroxychloroquine and green tea for that matter.

The fake studies don't need to exclude C or Zinc from studies of Ivermectin to claim ineffective the way they do with Hydroxychloroquine and Quercetin.

There are all manner of papers claiming some harm having come from use of Ivermectin including infertility in men or it's being ineffective in treating Covid.

All you have to do to understand is to just check the date of the paper.

Any with a derogatory outcome are dated since the vaccine has been being pushed on the unsuspecting and for the 40 years before that and billions of doses (yes with a "B") the toxicity of Ivermectin has been represented as something less than Aspirin.

It's cautions are to do with interactions with other medications

Yes Ivermectin is an Ionophore for Zinc but unlike Quercetin and Hydroxychloroquine its fundamental function in the prevention and cure of Covid is as an antiviral.

Studies put up and then retracted are just in the hope of cancelling the dozens of legit studies that clearly show the EUA which makes dispensing an untested medicine legal was not legit but rather a way of getting a "vaccine" into the arms of the innocent and unsuspecting.

https://covid19criticalcare.com/ivermectin/

[FatCity67]

Read the Limitations section of the actual report.

Remote testing, most outpatients wait up to 5 days after first showing symptoms before receiving first dose. Are they also self-reporting if it was a remote study?

[Palmaris]

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/...id-trial-finds

A randomized, controlled trial (RCT) shows that even at a higher dose and longer treatment duration, the antimalarial drug ivermectin didn't shorten the time to a sustained recovery from COVID-19.

Havent seen many people talk about this or the other covid cures that were being toted for so long. Thought you guys and gals would appreciate updates

Can you provide who was funding this investigation? In 100% cases so far all cases related to "ivermectin doesn't work" studies were funded by entities related to Pfizer and/or Moderna.

[theLBC]

For nearly two years, Dr. Pierre Kory has been trying to tell the United States and the world that Ivermectin is highly effective in preventing COVID-19. On January 5, following the release of “the 16th positive, statistically significant trial” reinforcing the effectiveness of the affordable drug, Kory reiterated that same message. Indeed, the latest study proving Ivermectin’s effectiveness was a gold-standard randomized clinical trial (RCT) conducted by MedinCell.

https://twitter.com/PierreKory/status/1611176107700633601?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1611176107700633601%7Ctwgr%5E39f52a2f8f400ca6a328bd3cd86a696baff8a73a%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.uncoverdc.com%2F2023%2F02%2F10%2Fgold-standard-rct-from-gates-funded-company-proves-ivermectin-works-against-covid%2F

[Scota4570]

Ivermectin is a zinc ionophore. In order to stop viruses it requires vitamin C and zinc. Look up, 'zinc ionophore'.

In the 'peer reviewed' studies that 'prove' ivermectin does nothing against viruses they always refuse to allow anyone to have vitamin C or zinc. Then they proudly announce ivermectin 'failed' because they expect you to be idiots that do not know what 'zinc ionophore' means.

Other zinc ionophores include Hydroxychloroquine and Quercetin! DUH!

Correct,

I took Vitamin C, Zinc, D with K2, Ivermectin, an antibiotic, and prednisone. All the direction and prescriptions of an honest doctor. I was sick with BA2 for about a week.

Taking vitimin D, zinc and C is proven to be very effective in lessenign the severity of a covid infection. At least the old strains, today is does not matter.

Funny thing, since I started taking D/K2 on a daily basis my A1C and blood fats have transformed into the middle of the "normal" ranges. They were slightly elevated before. No dietary changes, less exercise lately. I do not eat processed foods and few carbs. D/K2 is known to be protective against viral infection. If your level is low, mine was, it is bad on many levels.

Funding?? Most of the funding for drug research is done by the drug companies. You have to look very carefully and dig deep to find the truth. My current investigation is statins. When they lowered the threshold for total cholesterol from 240 to 200 8 of 9 doctors on the panel worked for the the drug companies. They also lie about statin effectiveness. Taking a stating lowers your total risk from 3-2% for a MI, death or stroke. The drug companies claim the risk reduction is 33% which is true but deliberately misleading. When I pointed this out to my doctor he got upset and insisted I take statins anyway. That is despite optimal A1C, Blood fat panels, and blood pressure. I think his judgement is compromised. I am shopping for a new doctor.

The take away is that the medical establishment is controlled by corrupt drug companies who work hand in hand with a corrupt government. Profit is the prime motivator. Your heath is not important as long as the money rolls in.

[sl0re10]

+1 on it won't work without zinc.

I also heard Brett Weinstein mention covid has changed to have a higher spike protein load than originally... And that this would effect ivermectin's effectiveness negatively.

[stonefly-2]

+1 on it won't work without zinc.

I also heard Brett Weinstein mention covid has changed to have a higher spike protein load than originally... And that this would effect ivermectin's effectiveness negatively.

Could you post a link to something that might support your theory?

Ivermectin does not act on spike proteins,

it acts on corona virus 19......similar to how a real vaccine would.

[sl0re10]

stonefly-2

Ivermectin occupies the same receptor on your cells (ace2) the spike protein typically uses to infect your cells. This is one means it slows it down. More spike means more competition for that receptor.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32871846/

[stonefly-2]

stonefly-2

Ivermectin occupies the same receptor on your cells (ace2) the spike protein typically uses to infect your cells. This is one means it slows it down. More spike means more competition for that receptor.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32871846/

That any medication is more challenged by a greater degree of disease goes without saying.

The real value in this thread is as an archive of information countering the narrative as we wait for it to collapse.

The action of ivermectin is not dependent on Zinc though it may be an ionophore for Zinc as well.

Ivermectin is not treatment for the spike proteins generated by covid any more than it is treatment for the spike proteins generated after a "vaccination".

Used as "treatment" for Covid it is interacting with a viral infection,

the number of spike proteins present with a new strain is relative to an earlier strain having progressed for longer.

The earlier Ivermectin is administered the better the result that can be expected against the viral infection with using it as prevention being the best course of action.

What I'm asking for a link on is the assertion that IVM shares with hydroxychloroquine and quercetin that it's action against Covid is based on it's being an Ionophore for Zinc.

Papers put out by the NIH are not going to be informative on the dynamic of IVM acting on Covid.

What is the advantage of spike proteins not bonding at ace-2 receptors when it's them clogging capillaries that is the greater concern?

[sl0re10]

Zinc has always been part of the recommended treatment protocol by working advocates of ivermectin I am aware of. They tend to be practitioners and not molecular biologists. There may or may not be a direct interaction. Doubtful the advocates could formulate a theory ahead of time about it even if there were. It could simply be ivermectin alone isn't potent enough to be effective. But if your going to do a study testing the theory ivermectin is effective against covid why leave it out when the advocates have said use them togeather? Reminds me of the previous study where they did not use the recommended (by the same advocates) dosages by weigh and 'concluded' it was ineffective.

Past that there is some personal experience. Second and third time I used it I didn't take zinc. Didn't work as it did the first time. Since remembering to take it.. it has worked better again.