Catching Covid Long Term Problems vs. Vax Side Effects

[stonefly-2]

How about those of us who haven't been sick at all?

That category needs more classification.

"Vaxxed", unvaxxed, unvaxxed thinking it's just a cold and not a bioweapon,
unvaxxed and fortified?

Lots of people haven't been sick at all....yet.

[SPUTTER]

That category needs more classification.

"Vaxxed", unvaxxed, unvaxxed thinking it's just a cold and not a bioweapon,
unvaxxed and fortified?

Lots of people haven't been sick at all....yet.

Unvaxxed and never been sick the past 2 years, there's alot of us out here.

[denpython]

OP research on how to detox your system of spike proteins.
I just did today but can't share links right now...
Zinc,vit D3, green tea,vit C, many natural things..
Pine needle tea Jada,jada

You are better off w/o the Vax in my opinion and you hit the therapeutics at onset.
Good luck!

[gimebakmybulits]

I haven't read or ever heard anyone talk about concerns of long term issues after catching Covid, this is for unvaxxed people, my blood pressure is high now after dealing with a bad case in December, I'm not insinuating that I should've gotten the jab, just that no one talks about post Covid problems very much, if it's airborne AIDS, then people, including myself are likely screwed.

How does your diet, amount of exercise and stress level today compare to that of February 2019? If its not up to the same level I'd say get out for a walk, improve your diet get more sleep and speak to your Dr about the BP. Exercise, sleep and diet can work wonders on BP

[ibanezfoo]

My head hurts, my feet stink, and I don't love Jesus

[stangallmotor]

Stress causing high blood pressure? We are definitely living in stressful times with all the BS Vax mandate stuff.

[MissiontoMars]

I had the 2 shot Pfizer vaxx last year. No booster.
I just got over Covid - Omicron variant most likely. (No fever, mostly head cold, bit of chest involvement due to my asthma)

i firmly believe that the vaxx and our distancing measures kept our family away from the more serious versions of Covid, and also helped our immune systems deal with the bug in about two weeks from exposure to just about 100% wellness.

My informed, unprofessional take: the possible risks of the vaxx were far outweighed by the possible protections allowing us to sidestep side effects of Covid. From my observation, getting the shot along with other precautions allowed us to postpone getting Covid as long as possible. I think this was an important choice since the version we dealt with sucked but was a far cry from the body-stacking version of 2020. Hopefully the mix of antibodies, vaxx juice and fairly clean living will continue to keep us safe.

Again, just my opinion, but we had another unvaxxed family member die of Covid complications yesterday, and i firmly believe if she had chosen to vaxx, she’d likely still be here. I don’t believe the risks of vaxxing would have been zero for her but i think it would have been a good option. Her name was Connie, and she’ll be missed.

[Wherryj]

Spike proteins coursing your veins is bad however they got there.

THIS is the issue. Had the vaccine targeted anything but that spike protein things might be different. Why they chose the known toxic portion of the virus as the protein in the mRNA is beyond my comprehension.

There have been attempts to create coronavirus vaccines for decades, all of which have failed because that spike protein is the problem regardless of how the subject gets exposed to it. Those who don't overreact to the spike protein don't need the vaccine, but those who do mount a significant inflammatory response to the virus do the same with the vaccine.

It's a Catch-22. If you need the vaccine, the vaccine will injure you, and if the vaccine doesn't injure you the virus typically doesn't either. I love how the media and the "experts" spin this as "if you don't get the vaccine you might get 'long Covid' complications". There is no proof that long term complications are avoided by the vaccine, especially seeing how people are getting infected even after having been vaccinated. It seems more likely at this point that getting vaccinated just ASSURES multiple exposures to this toxic spike protein, rather than taking your chances with getting exposed to it once and getting natural immunity.

[turbolxstang]

THIS is the issue. Had the vaccine targeted anything but that spike protein things might be different. Why they chose the known toxic portion of the virus as the protein in the mRNA is beyond my comprehension.

There have been attempts to create coronavirus vaccines for decades, all of which have failed because that spike protein is the problem regardless of how the subject gets exposed to it. Those who don't overreact to the spike protein don't need the vaccine, but those who do mount a significant inflammatory response to the virus do the same with the vaccine.

It's a Catch-22. If you need the vaccine, the vaccine will injure you, and if the vaccine doesn't injure you the virus typically doesn't either. I love how the media and the "experts" spin this as "if you don't get the vaccine you might get 'long Covid' complications". There is no proof that long term complications are avoided by the vaccine, especially seeing how people are getting infected even after having been vaccinated. It seems more likely at this point that getting vaccinated just ASSURES multiple exposures to this toxic spike protein, rather than taking your chances with getting exposed to it once and getting natural immunity.

Not arguing so no need to get defensive, I have trouble with the catching covid and developing natural immunity, if covid was made in a lab (I'm assuming you believe this), wouldn't it by design be a bad thing to, I'm not convinced natural immunity is a great thing, I'm concerned that what I caught and was infected with is a man made virus and what the hell it's gonna do to me long term, this has nothing to do with the vaccine, for the sake of my statement lets just assume there is no vaccine. My feet don't stink.

[stormvet]

If there are residual issues caused by Covid, being vaxxed or not would not make a difference. If you can catch covid while vaxxed, you can get residual issues while vaxxed.

But this is most likely an individual issue not one that will be common across the board, just as it is with most other illnesses.

As far as high blood pressure goes, yes covid has lead to a spike in high blood pressure. When people hide away in the house and are scared blood pressure tends to spike up. Is it covid causing the spike or the media, pretty sure it’s more media then covid.

[turbolxstang]

I've continued doing what I've always done, I will admit it's frustrating dealing with mandates, wearing masks indoors and all the nonsense that goes along with having a brain and living in the Bay Area, it's impossible to tune it all out, but even after going to see my doctor I don't have any answers, I've weighed more before and my BP was normal, is it age, is it Covid, is it stress, no one knows, likely never will, where did the virus come from again, I forgot.

[stonefly-2]

If there are residual issues caused by Covid, being vaxxed or not would not make a difference.

With the exception of the issues being compounded


If you can catch covid while vaxxed, you can get residual issues while vaxxed.

You can and you can also get the residual issues when vaxxed but without contracting Covid

But this is most likely an individual issue not one that will be common across the board, just as it is with most other illnesses.

It is both an individual issue and a common one

That is perhaps true but once you realize the media is propaganda and ignore it should you also ignore the physiology involved?

[gimebakmybulits]

Not arguing so no need to get defensive, I have trouble with the catching covid and developing natural immunity, if covid was made in a lab (I'm assuming you believe this), wouldn't it by design be a bad thing to, I'm not convinced natural immunity is a great thing, I'm concerned that what I caught and was infected with is a man made virus and what the hell it's gonna do to me long term, this has nothing to do with the vaccine, for the sake of my statement lets just assume there is no vaccine. My feet don't stink.

You are not giving your own body the credit it's due, there is a huge biological difference between natural exposure to the virus and the transfection that is administered via the needle. The injection is basically a line of code that is instructing your body to do something that is not normal. There is a long list of things that can and are going wrong with what it's making people's bodies produce. Sure, just like any other viral infection there can be issues but the vast majority of people have zero issues with a natural viral infection due to the extremely robust immune system we have.

[turbolxstang]

You are not giving your own body the credit it's due, there is a huge biological difference between natural exposure to the virus and the transfection that is administered via the needle. The injection is basically a line of code that is instructing your body to do something that is not normal. There is a long list of things that can and are going wrong with what it's making people's bodies produce. Sure, just like any other viral infection there can be issues but the vast majority of people have zero issues with a natural viral infection due to the extremely robust immune system we have.

I'm not in any way advocating for the vaccine, let me make that crystal clear...

Is Covid-19 a "natural" virus?

[stormvet]

I've continued doing what I've always done, I will admit it's frustrating dealing with mandates, wearing masks indoors and all the nonsense that goes along with having a brain and living in the Bay Area, it's impossible to tune it all out, but even after going to see my doctor I don't have any answers, I've weighed more before and my BP was normal, is it age, is it Covid, is it stress, no one knows, likely never will, where did the virus come from again, I forgot.