Italy’s suspected covid death tally corrected from 132,161 to 3,783

[Creeping Incrementalism]

I wonder what the "real" covid death tally is here in the USA? 10% of the reported total at most, I'd guess.

The rest are just old people kicking off, accelerated by lack of care due to the forced covid shutdowns.

I recall that the age adjusted mortality rate in the U.S. increased by 0.11% last year (2020). That equates to 363k deaths due to either the disease, or the shutdowns of society that resulted. (I think a lot of the winter surge deaths were in January and thus not included). By comparison influenza alone got about 35k per year in the years beforehand. Pneumonia from all causes got about 130k per year before this.

[ACfixer]

Good for you now stay out of bars and restaurants.

Why? YOU stay out of bars and restaurants and let the rest of us live our lives.

Since you can still catch and transmit the disease with the vax, you are not safe anywhere.

[sd_shooter]

Mis info from anti covid vaxxing crowd. Need more tinfoil for hats (LOL) Same cheerleader here all the time cherry picking info.

Uh, I think it's the other way around....

Remember this piece of faux news?

Good for you now stay out of bars and restaurants. Do what you like if it has consequences so be it. It is always same group that posts about this. I have had it and the vax and think I have immunity but I am 70 with lung issues so could not take chance.

Yeah there's only one person that should stay home and that's you. I'd get the shot in your situation as well.

For the rest of us the risk is very small. I've been eating out, shopping, going to bars, hiking, traveling as much as restrictions allow throughout the plandemic. And yes I've had the Covid, was like a mild flu.

[plinker202020]

Good for you now stay out of bars and restaurants. Do what you like if it has consequences so be it. It is always same group that posts about this. I have had it and the vax and think I have immunity but I am 70 with lung issues so could not take chance.

It has consequences for the old and weak. Shame on you for burdening the young and strong members of the herd with your frailties.

[wpage]

Everyone has done what they had to or wanted to. So now we are doing what we want.
The cards will fall where they may. Good luck and God speed to all. May the best auto immune systems win...

[Wherryj]

I wonder what the "real" covid death tally is here in the USA? 10% of the reported total at most, I'd guess.

The rest are just old people kicking off, accelerated by lack of care due to the forced covid shutdowns.

I so far have ZERO deaths from Covid and at least two deaths from people being afraid to leave the house, dying from self-treating with aspirin/Aleve, getting an ulcer then refusing to go to the ER until it had already perforated.

I have several more likely going to die from putting off screening for cancers that they typically would have done. I also have several that possibly died form covid vaccine reactions and one with myocarditis suspicious for vaccine.

This is on top of dozens of people with moderate to severe reactions to the vaccines-unexplained bleeding and clots, neurological disorders like prolonged twitching, neuropathic pain, headaches lasting months (a couple of patients with months of pain and still no let up to date), etc.

I think that regardless of what the finally tally might be, the efforts to 'stop' it have caused far more damage, and that's even before one considers how many people are dying form suicides, loss of resources from losing jobs, etc.

[balgor]

Something sure killed a ton of extra people in Italy in 2020. Sharknados, food poisoning, a Hegelian dialectical process??? Just odd, some answers are just unknowable. But, it is weird that countries like AUS and NZ with heavy lockdowns didn't have excess deaths, shouldn't the lockdowns have devastated them?

[Livetoride33]

Go away troll.

[michael0594]

Good for you now stay out of bars and restaurants. Do what you like if it has consequences so be it. It is always same group that posts about this. I have had it and the vax and think I have immunity but I am 70 with lung issues so could not take chance.

Shouldn't you stay in your basement to avoid covid at all costs? Why the hell are you even attempt to go outside?

[sd_shooter]

Something sure killed a ton of extra people in Italy in 2020. Sharknados, food poisoning, a Hegelian dialectical process??? Just odd, some answers are just unknowable. But, it is weird that countries like AUS and NZ with heavy lockdowns didn't have excess deaths, shouldn't the lockdowns have devastated them?

The vaccinations are currently ravaging their population:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjz0QgVd3Zk&t=1755s

[therealnickb]

Something sure killed a ton of extra people in Italy in 2020. Sharknados, food poisoning, a Hegelian dialectical process??? Just odd, some answers are just unknowable. But, it is weird that countries like AUS and NZ with heavy lockdowns didn't have excess deaths, shouldn't the lockdowns have devastated them?

[SanDiego619]

Everyone has done what they had to or wanted to. So now we are doing what we want.
The cards will fall where they may. Good luck and God speed to all. May the best auto immune systems win...

That sounds like life! It's a cruel world.

This isn't about the shot though, it doesn't prevent someone from catching or spreading covid. Might as well inject water for all it does.

[anthonyca]

I wonder what the "real" covid death tally is here in the USA? 10% of the reported total at most, I'd guess.

The rest are just old people kicking off, accelerated by lack of care due to the forced covid shutdowns.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm#Comorbidities

[deerdeerdeer]

Good for you now stay out of bars and restaurants. Do what you like if it has consequences so be it. It is always same group that posts about this. I have had it and the vax and think I have immunity but I am 70 with lung issues so could not take chance.

For a 70 year old your still selfish and havent learned anything about selflessness, you got 3 more decades hopefully to learn this.

[sd_shooter]

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/c...#Comorbidities

Thanks, bookmarked

So 5-6% were covid, the rest had existing conditions. Colin Powell comes to mind.