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  • #16
    Cali-Glock
    In Memoriam
    • Mar 2005
    • 3890

    Originally posted by stix213
    The problem with these conspiracy theories is they require the cooperation of too many people, between government and all the pharmaceutical companies. Not only the leaders, but the scientists and engineers.

    What I find a lot more plausible is 66% of vaccine candidates fail at some point during testing, failing to come to market. You've got a government response which pushed the vaccines through, skipping the majority of testing which usually takes a decade. During this rushed testing you've failed exactly 0% of the vaccines.

    Combine that with using experimental new vaccine technology (which should necessitate more testing, not less). You're creating the vaccines to combat a notoriously difficult class of virus to create vaccines for, given that vaccines for the closely related SARS-CoV-1 and MERS failed during animal trials, eventually killing large percentages of the animals.

    With all that, it is implausible that all vaccines created so far are really "safe and effective".

    This is like if you're a terrible carpenter who on 2/3 of your jobs your work has to be torn down and started over, and now there's a bunch of jobs you have to rush through in a tenth of the time you usually have, and you nail all these jobs perfectly without any significant problems in any of them. It isn't just unlikely, it is almost impossible to believe.

    Now if you want to believe in a conspiracy theory, I'd suggest you just need to be at the top pushing this whole mess forward. You push the vaccines through, you have the CDC and FDA do hardly any of their own testing so you don't find any problems yourself. You expect the pharmaceutical companies to cherry pick their own data for studies they provide. You just control the narrative that these are really safe and effective.

    Then you just take your chances that without rushing, 2/3 of these vaccines should be failures, so when rushed you'd expect these ones to have even worse chances. Then just sit back and watch as most people take them unaware of the risks. Doing it this way requires far fewer people to actually be a part of the conspiracy.
    Bringing logic and reason into the discussion is not allowed. That will be twelve demerits from your Social Credit Score.
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    • #17
      theduracellbigd
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2011
      • 1134

      Originally posted by SPUTTER
      They don't care who dies, as long as people die. I wouldn't be surprised if they despise those that are stupid enough to willingly inject themselves with mystery serum the most.
      The people stupid enough to not get vax will die off when the new virus is released by China. Quick death of all conservative types that resisted.

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      • #18
        stix213
        AKA: Joe Censored
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Apr 2009
        • 18998

        Originally posted by Cali-Glock
        Bringing logic and reason into the discussion is not allowed. That will be twelve demerits from your Social Credit Score.
        Unfortunately my social credit score got 500 demerits by refusing the safe and effective vaccine. Something about how I'm out to get grandma, don't know.

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        • #19
          M14 Junkie
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2009
          • 733

          Originally posted by theduracellbigd
          The people stupid enough to not get vax will die off when the new virus is released by China. Quick death of all conservative types that resisted.
          The stupid people are those who would believe a government that imposes draconian, fascist measures, to force people to be vaccinated for a freaking flu, is all in the name of good will.

          A government that would allow and encourage tens of thousands of migrants into a country who are not vaccinated during a supposedly killer pandemic, while insisting that it's own citizens be vaccinated is not a government to be trusted.

          No, that's pure evil. And, the stupid people are those who believe the propaganda spewed out by the bureaucrats.
          Last edited by M14 Junkie; 09-29-2021, 4:47 PM.

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          • #20
            Beelzy
            Calguns Addict
            • Apr 2008
            • 9224

            Maybe it's like what I told someone years ago about folks always lining up for the flu shot every year gambling if it's the right vax, should be careful, as one day the government might decide to inject people with a poison then dangle the cure over their heads and own them.
            Oh, forgot the important part, people will of course line up and take that shot with glee.

            (Yeah, talk about a mind screw when all of this started actually happening)
            "I kill things for a living, don't make yourself one of them"

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            • #21
              gimebakmybulits
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              CGN Contributor
              • Feb 2007
              • 992

              Originally posted by theduracellbigd
              The people stupid enough to not get vax will die off when the new virus is released by China. Quick death of all conservative types that resisted.
              For a clown that has previously claimed knowledge of biology, you sure are pretty ****ing stupid.
              "Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth."
              George Washington

              "The constitutions of most of our States assert that all power is inherent in the people; that... it is their right and duty to be at all times armed."
              Thomas Jefferson

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              • #22
                meno377
                ?????
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Jul 2013
                • 4911

                Originally posted by theduracellbigd
                The people stupid enough to not get vax will die off when the new virus is released by China. Quick death of all conservative types that resisted.
                Didn't think anyone who took the vaccine would truly be this insecure? You need help.
                Originally posted by Fjold
                I've been married so long that I don't even look both ways when I cross the street.
                Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program.
                -Milton Friedman


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                • #23
                  gimebakmybulits
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 992

                  lil d is trying hard to compensate for something.....
                  "Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth."
                  George Washington

                  "The constitutions of most of our States assert that all power is inherent in the people; that... it is their right and duty to be at all times armed."
                  Thomas Jefferson

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                  • #24
                    M14 Junkie
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 733

                    Originally posted by gimebakmybulits
                    lil d is trying hard to compensate for something.....
                    LOL...took the thought right out of my head.

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                    • #25
                      Notpc
                      Veteran Member
                      • Nov 2016
                      • 3312

                      Originally posted by meno377
                      Didn't think anyone who took the vaccine would truly be this insecure? You need help.
                      He can't help himself, it is a side effect of the vaccine. I have seen it many time in this forum area.
                      "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain..."
                      Roy Batty

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                      • #26
                        SPUTTER
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 7504

                        Originally posted by theduracellbigd
                        The people stupid enough to not get vax will die off when the new virus is released by China. Quick death of all conservative types that resisted.
                        You do know that the mRNA spike protein in your precious vaccine was coded by CCP scientists? They don't have to release anything when you are willing injecting into yourself.

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                        • #27
                          Big Chudungus
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jun 2021
                          • 3000

                          What was CCP response to ongoing and increasing Trade War promised for Trump's 2nd term?

                          On one hand China's economy is strong and Govt stable and in charge but on the other a Trade War with USA (win lose or draw) would likely topple many "house of cards" aspects of China and they also got a freshly minted millionaire class that thinks their clan is now set for next few generations and have international contacts etc and they wouldn't be willing to go back to some "austerity measures" to keep the CCP in power, so who knows how that would play out and many Chinese factories are owned by PLA and run by generals (who are I assume "profit sharing") and would these generals want to go back to the bad old days?

                          So again I've gotta ask "What was CCP's response to looming Trump trade war? (that would likely end with current CCP leaders deposed and thus like in prison or killed)

                          Because it had to be SOMETHING but is officially "nothing".

                          Inventor of RNA says they'd Vaxx test animals and antibody tests showed "it worked!" and animals seemed fine but when they actually gave animals the virus it all when bad and somehow the Vaxx or the RNA antibodies enabled the virus and created a "storm" and the animals died.
                          So he is expecting a human die-off of unprecedented numbers in the upcoming Flu Season of the Vaxxed. He also says that for basic reasons of evolution you can't LEAKY Vaxx your way out of a Pandemic and leaky RNA Vaxx only breeds stronger Virus.



                          So they made a deal with DNC to do Bat Virus hoax. Sure it "came from China" but not actually as IIRC has been dated to before Wuhan in Italy so its all a big mystery, and also still ZILCH that this Virus even exists, its all just some Zombie Street theater in China and guys like Fauci making "recommendations" so no one has really done anything.

                          IMO would make a good tragic-comedy with a story arc of Shakespearean proportions. It starts out sorta small but kinda serious then snow balls with every dork and spork in the kingdom trying to out do the next guy, which ends up doing more damage with "lock downs" than an actual war, then somehow people wake up that is all been just "the emperor's new clothes" but don't know how to admit it to themselves. "They" are already making nonsensical claims about "Pandemic of the UnVaxxed" so wait till there are mass die offs. Everyone involved is clearly in far to deep to admit they screwed up by listening to Fauci and Gates, so they will only Double Down and mask their mistakes with more and more crazy Lock Downs and Mandates. Gonna be a wild ride, but not in a good way.

                          Japan, China, Norway, Denmark and Sweden seem to have lost interest because I guess unlike Anglo-Sphere they don't feel any great need to create weird distractions.
                          Last edited by Big Chudungus; 09-29-2021, 10:02 PM.

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                          • #28
                            DentonandSasquatchShow
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2018
                            • 1343

                            Originally posted by Notpc
                            That was posed earlier in this section of the forum, not a new conspiracy. Problem is, many of the folks who have chosen to pass on the vaccine are blacks and hispanics, not the evil white supremacist Trump voters the media is portraying.
                            Thing is the Left (Liberal/Marxist) actually hate blacks and hispanics. They just pander to them to get votes. So they really wouldn't care if they all died off.
                            I will stand for truth even if I stand alone.

                            The last time I had faith in the News was when it was with Huey Lewis.

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                            • #29
                              The Gleam
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Feb 2011
                              • 12256

                              Originally posted by Cali-Glock
                              So here is my crazy conspiracy theory to muddy waters:

                              Last edited by The Gleam; 09-30-2021, 12:40 AM.
                              -----------------------------------------------
                              Originally posted by Librarian
                              What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

                              If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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                              • #30
                                ibanezfoo
                                I need a LIFE!!
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 11704

                                Originally posted by theduracellbigd
                                The people stupid enough to not get vax will die off when the new virus is released by China. Quick death of all conservative types that resisted.
                                Sounds like some kind of sick fantasy you have
                                vindicta inducit ad salutem?

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