Real science VS Anti vaxer

[axhoaxho]

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[stix213]

Here's what's interesting though, although death rate was higher for those with 2 doses of vaccine, the rate of emergency room visits was substantially lower than the unvaccinated.

This is exactly what you'd expect to see as an early sign that ADE is beginning to show its face.

For most people the vaccine is either still working, or not working against them, for now. But for people where ADE is occurring, you get really really sick, and are at serious risk of dying. So for the vaccinated you end up seeing fairly low hospitalization, but a spike in severe or death rates for the ADE cases.

If ADE is happening, this effect will continue to get more pronounced over time, unless a mass booster rollout is successful to buy everyone another 6-12 months or so and hide the problem until then.

ADE is expected to occur once antibody levels drop to within a certain concentration range, based on animal tests for candidate vaccines for similar viruses (testing which failed, and the vaccines were shelved). Above a certain level, you get protection from the virus. Below that level you get ADE and high chance of death or life threatening illness, if you don't catch the virus long enough for antibody levels to drop even lower, then your immune system behaves similar to unvaccinated, meaning no ADE occurs.

If this is the case, then the vaccinated will need to commit to frequent boosters for life, we need to come up with some new technology to clean their blood of the vaccine antibodies and the cells which produce them, or all vaccinated people need to completely isolate from society for as long as it takes for their vaccine antibodies to drop low enough to not have a significant response to the virus.

[sigfan91]

This is exactly what you'd expect to see as an early sign that ADE is beginning to show its face.

For most people the vaccine is either still working, or not working against them, for now. But for people where ADE is occurring, you get really really sick, and are at serious risk of dying. So for the vaccinated you end up seeing fairly low hospitalization, but a spike in severe or death rates for the ADE cases.

If ADE is happening, this effect will continue to get more pronounced over time, unless a mass booster rollout is successful to buy everyone another 6-12 months or so and hide the problem until then.

ADE is expected to occur once antibody levels drop to within a certain concentration range, based on animal tests for candidate vaccines for similar viruses (testing which failed, and the vaccines were shelved). Above a certain level, you get protection from the virus. Below that level you get ADE and high chance of death or life threatening illness, if you don't catch the virus long enough for antibody levels to drop even lower, then your immune system behaves similar to unvaccinated, meaning no ADE occurs.

If this is the case, then the vaccinated will need to commit to frequent boosters for life, we need to come up with some new technology to clean their blood of the vaccine antibodies and the cells which produce them, or all vaccinated people need to completely isolate from society for as long as it takes for their vaccine antibodies to drop low enough to not have a significant response to the virus.

That is very strange. Why is a little antibody much worse than no antibody if one were to be infected at that point in time?

[five.five-six]

99% of Covid deaths are the unvaccinated.

[deerdeerdeer]

Real science is virologist telling you its unsafe and they have decades in the field not an opinion editorial or even lawmakers

[DentonandSasquatchShow]

I just got over Covid. It was a mild flu. My wife and two kids (15 and 9) had it. It barely effected them.

Granted there are some people who have preexisting conditions or are elderly that Covid can do some serious damage or kill. But if you're young (I'm 50) and in good health you have nothing to worry about.

The REAL epidemic in America is people getting their information on Facebook.

[sacrvrrat]

Real science is virologist telling you its unsafe and they have decades in the field not an opinion editorial or even lawmakers

[Libertarian777]

Literally ZERO virologists can tell us about it's long term safety, because there's no long term study yet concluded, and insufficient time has passed. They can speculate like we all do, but there is no evidence.

[shrpshtr37]

whats crazy is the fda stopped the swine flu vaccine at 23 deaths back in the 70's.. this "jab" is at 12000 plus deaths and climbing and still got "approval".

[deerdeerdeer]

Literally ZERO virologists can tell us about it's long term safety, because there's no long term study yet concluded, and insufficient time has passed. They can speculate like we all do, but there is no evidence.

whoops, I forgot NOT safe lol

[Term]

Literally ZERO virologists can tell us about it's long term safety, because there's no long term study yet concluded, and insufficient time has passed. They can speculate like we all do, but there is no evidence.

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[axhoaxho]

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[five.five-six]

Is that bob? Lol

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[SmokeTheClay]

https://assets.publishing.service.go...riefing_20.pdf
Page 19:
1 Feb 21 to 2 Aug 21
742 total deaths: 402 received 2 doses; 253 unvaccinated

300,010 Delta cases: 47,008 received 2 doses; 151,054 unvaccinated
alternatively 481 deaths out of 117,115 at least partially vaccinated

253/151,054 = 0.16% death rate for unvaccinated
402/47,008 = 0.8% death rate for fully vaccinated
481/117,115 = 0.4% death rate for at least, partially vaccinated

Wow