Real science VS Anti vaxer

[stonefly-2]

Bob, why do you care if any of us get the vax or not.

Be honest Bob.

Because he knows enemies domestic will take a major setback as we pull this fraud apart.

[bigbossman]

Never argue with anti vaxxers not worth the effort. To each his own.

When someone persists in conflating "anti-vaxxer" with those that are concerned about this particular vaccine, after being told REPEATEDLY why that isn't accurate, then whatever they say next is of no import; it is of little or no consequence, and can be dismissed out of hand.

Such a person is either willfully ignorant, genuinely obtuse, or else is being deliberately disingenuous.

There is no other option.

[gimebakmybulits]

99% of the stupid and gullible got the vaccine.

[MrFancyPants]

Never argue with anti vaxxers not worth the effort. To each his own.

To be clear, most of us are not anti vaccine. That is PROVEN vaccines after many years of trials and data proving their efficacy. Me and my family have all the appropriate vaccinations which actually serve a purpose and have proven to be effective at actually preventing illness. We are just against experimental injections of unknown substances into our bodies which have already proven to cause catastrophic and sometimes fatal results, mRNA reprogramming and immunocompromised formerly healthy individuals, and don't even prevent the illness it was supposedly invented to prevent. We also can think for ourselves and understand science and basic physics, and don't believe all the BS the fake media spoon feeds the sheep at their masters' bidding.

But as you say, to each their own.

[the_tunaman]

99% of the stupid and gullible got the vaccine.

[sigfan91]

Ever notice that 100% of the "break through" infections are from the vaccinated?

Ever notice that if 100% of the population were vaccinated, then 100% of the wuhan deaths would be from the vaccinated?

[ozarkpugs@gmail.com]

To be clear, most of us are not anti vaccine. That is PROVEN vaccines after many years of trials and data proving their efficacy. Me and my family have all the appropriate vaccinations which actually serve a purpose and have proven to be effective at actually preventing illness. We are just against experimental injections of unknown substances into our bodies which have already proven to cause catastrophic and sometimes fatal results, mRNA reprogramming and immunocompromised formerly healthy individuals, and don't even prevent the illness it was supposedly invented to prevent. We also can think for ourselves and understand science and basic physics, and don't believe all the BS the fake media spoon feeds the sheep at their masters' bidding.

But as you say, to each their own.

Exactly , I'm pro vaccine . I'm just not for the covid-19 crap we are being fed

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[LBDamned]

Never argue with anti vaxxers not worth the effort. To each his own.

But vaxxers insist an argument is warranted because bad info is slung about... while many of them sling bad info.

So the narrative is basically- listen to pro-vax opinions (regardless of validity) and keep quiet.

[Beelzy]

Real Science can't argue with reality, yet here we are. Real Science thought mercury dipped felt hat's were great, asbestos was great, radium, fentanyl, etc.Then reality came to pass.
The term Real Science has become a oxymoron.

[deerdeerdeer]

It is totally normal to take 3 flu shots a year, nothing abnormal about that, do it all the time! In fact,the more the merrier, extra protection, extra safe lets go! I'm gonna follow the science with my science degree thats unrelated to virology, in fact , I don't want to think anymore, someone just make the shots for me (non pun intended ha-ha), much easier, please and thank you!

[ibanezfoo]

Science(TM) has nothing to do with science…

[Libertarian777]

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1009243/Technical_Briefing_20.pdf

Page 19:
1 Feb 21 to 2 Aug 21
742 total deaths: 402 received 2 doses; 253 unvaccinated

300,010 Delta cases: 47,008 received 2 doses; 151,054 unvaccinated
alternatively 481 deaths out of 117,115 at least partially vaccinated

253/151,054 = 0.16% death rate for unvaccinated
402/47,008 = 0.8% death rate for fully vaccinated
481/117,115 = 0.4% death rate for at least, partially vaccinated

[sigfan91]

https://assets.publishing.service.go...riefing_20.pdf
Page 19:
1 Feb 21 to 2 Aug 21
742 total deaths: 402 received 2 doses; 253 unvaccinated

300,010 Delta cases: 47,008 received 2 doses; 151,054 unvaccinated
alternatively 481 deaths out of 117,115 at least partially vaccinated

253/151,054 = 0.16% death rate for unvaccinated
402/47,008 = 0.8% death rate for fully vaccinated
481/117,115 = 0.4% death rate for at least, partially vaccinated

Here's what's interesting though, although death rate was higher for those with 2 doses of vaccine, the rate of emergency room visits was substantially lower than the unvaccinated.

[meno377]

Here's what's interesting though, although death rate was higher for those with 2 doses of vaccine, the rate of emergency room visits was substantially lower than the unvaccinated.

That's very difficult to conclude based on different tolerances among individuals. Some may go to the emergency room for the sniffles. Others may not go until they're extremely sick.

If you're vaccinated you may have more confidence in that it's said your symptoms aren't supposed to be as severe. If you're unvaccinated you may panic and go to the E.R.

[sigfan91]

That's very difficult to conclude based on different tolerances among individuals. Some may go to the emergency room for the sniffles. Others may not go until they're extremely sick.

If you're vaccinated you may have more confidence in that it's said your symptoms aren't supposed to be as severe. If you're unvaccinated you may panic and go to the E.R.

Agreed. Too many variables to consider. The only way to be sure is to have a double blind study with proper control group. Unfortunately we lost that for some odd reason.