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  • #31
    sigfan91
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jun 2009
    • 10316

    Originally posted by Sgt. J Beezy






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    I swear Hillary's gif scares me the most.

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    • #32
      UCT
      Member
      • Mar 2013
      • 410

      The numbers say the vaccine does not work at all to prevent infection. There are way more infections now, with people vaccinated, than last year when no one was vaccinated. This looks like OAS. Death rates are lower this year than last. If ADE we would expect them to be higher. However, we need to wait and see what happens.

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      • #33
        The Gleam
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Feb 2011
        • 12248

        Originally posted by M14 Junkie

        Why TF do you want the government to inject a poison into your body!? I suppose it's that you buy the narrative that they push.

        That, this is a "novel" virus, unlike any other, where aerosolized droplets emitted from people's noses and mouths HANG IN THE AIR LIKE RADIOACTIVE FALLOUT.

        That is what the "Mask Davidians" believe. Are you one of them?
        Either this is a parody reply, or you're simply a nincompoop.

        Nowhere, at any time, in this thread or anywhere else on Calguns, did I suggest or even make a comment that resembles your utter lack of comprehension for what you've read and stated above.

        What I did make clear, is that it would be reasonable for anyone to want a safe and viable all encompassing vaccine for COVID and all its variants, no different than vaccines most all of us have long since received for Polio, Small Pox, Measles, Chicken Pox, etc.

        Check your vaccination records from when you were a baby, and there's about a couple dozen vaccines I bet you didn't even know you received.

        But no, I have no faith in THESE vaccines as of late, nor do I trust them.

        Pull your head out of your butt so you can actually see what you are reading.
        Last edited by The Gleam; 08-05-2021, 4:36 PM.
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        Originally posted by Librarian
        What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

        If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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        • #34
          Gundiver
          Banned
          • Sep 2016
          • 1030

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          • #35
            M14 Junkie
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2009
            • 733

            Originally posted by The Gleam
            Either this is a parody reply, or you're simply a nincompoop.

            Nowhere, at any time, in this thread or anywhere else on Calguns, did I suggest or even make a comment that resembles your utter lack of comprehension for what you've read and stated above.

            What I did make clear, is that it would be reasonable for anyone to want a safe and viable all encompassing vaccine for COVID and all its variants, no different than vaccines most all of us have long since received for Polio, Small Pox, Measles, Chicken Pox, etc.

            Check your vaccination records from when you were a baby, and there's about a couple dozen vaccines I bet you didn't even know you received.

            But no, I have no faith in THESE vaccines as of late, nor do I trust them.

            Pull your head out of your butt so you can actually see what you are reading.
            Merely the fact that you feel the need to be vaccinated, (did you not say that?) against this virus validates my opinion of you as an idiot.

            Pull your head out of your ***.

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            • #36
              theLBC
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              CGN Contributor
              • Oct 2017
              • 6599

              .gov screwed up big time.
              they should have made the vax mandatory right from the start, before people figured out that it didn't work for schiff and made people sicker instead of helping.

              all those "vaccinated" that have not gotten sick?
              they wouldn't have gotten sick anyway.

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              • #37
                Scota4570
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2006
                • 1719

                Originally posted by Jesse 2
                I get that some of you are goofing around and having fun.

                For those who really think this is an issue, cases means little. Cases is a sketchy category ripe with deliberate manipulation. Deaths do matter. The whole county of Israel went from nearly zero to 5 deaths a week. SO WHAT! This is another example of the fallacy of small numbers being used to mislead people. Five deaths in 8.6 million people is still not significant.

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                • #38
                  theLBC
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Oct 2017
                  • 6599

                  Originally posted by Scota4570
                  I get that some of you are goofing around and having fun.

                  For those who really think this is an issue, cases means little. Cases is a sketchy category ripe with deliberate manipulation. Deaths do matter. The whole county of Israel went from nearly zero to 5 deaths a week. SO WHAT! This is another example of the fallacy of small numbers being used to mislead people.
                  yup, that is exactly why they haven't brought back the dead counter and just talk about cases.

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                  • #39
                    sigfan91
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 10316

                    Originally posted by Scota4570
                    I get that some of you are goofing around and having fun.

                    For those who really think this is an issue, cases means little. Cases is a sketchy category ripe with deliberate manipulation. Deaths do matter. The whole county of Israel went from nearly zero to 5 deaths a week. SO WHAT! This is another example of the fallacy of small numbers being used to mislead people. Five deaths in 8.6 million people is still not significant.
                    We're just using the government's method against it.

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                    • #40
                      M1NM
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 7966

                      Maybe they should have paid full price and not gone with the "my brother can get it for you wholesale" deal.

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                      • #41
                        SPUTTER
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 7504

                        They are reporting 95% of the severely ill patients are vaccinated.

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                        • #42
                          sd_shooter
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 13552

                          Originally posted by SPUTTER
                          They are reporting 95% of the severely ill patients are vaccinated.
                          Yes, and all those people will still need a 3rd vax (likely 4th, 5th...)

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                          • #43
                            UCT
                            Member
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 410

                            Originally posted by Scota4570
                            I get that some of you are goofing around and having fun.

                            For those who really think this is an issue, cases means little. Cases is a sketchy category ripe with deliberate manipulation. Deaths do matter. The whole county of Israel went from nearly zero to 5 deaths a week. SO WHAT! This is another example of the fallacy of small numbers being used to mislead people. Five deaths in 8.6 million people is still not significant.
                            There are more "cases" now than in July 2020 when there was no vaccine. So I think cases mean more than "little." As for deaths, they are only slightly lower than in July 2020, again when no one was vaccinated. We have to wait and see whether they surpass last year's numbers or not.

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                            • #44
                              sigfan91
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 10316

                              Originally posted by UCT
                              There are more "cases" now than in July 2020 when there was no vaccine. So I think cases mean more than "little." As for deaths, they are only slightly lower than in July 2020, again when no one was vaccinated. We have to wait and see whether they surpass last year's numbers or not.
                              Let me spin that for you:

                              Last year Israel was shut down to control the pandemic.

                              This year, the country is fully open due to high vax rate. See, vaccine allowed the country to fully open yet keep the infected and death rate down as if it were still shut down. Isn't vax wonderful?

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                              • #45
                                FlyingShooter
                                Senior Member
                                • Jun 2012
                                • 831

                                Originally posted by SPUTTER
                                They are reporting 95% of the severely ill patients are vaccinated.
                                Source?

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