In Israel the Vax isn't helping - deaths are climbing

[71MUSTY]

OMG all of Israel has like almost no cases. doesn't take much to double when you are at near zero

[LBDamned]

If something doesn't work - do more of it

[LBDamned]

Our resident 'virologists' have stopped posting. I suspect all the real world data was too much to overcome with mental gymnastics.

They've been in zoom meetings all week - trying to come up with the next spin...

[stix213]

Israeli news now reporting 85-90% of hospitalizations are for vaccinated, and 95% of severe patients are vaccinated. If the vaccine were reducing illness severity, you would generally assume that the percentage of severe patients would likely be lower than the percentage of total patients as far as percentage vaccinated, and lower than the vaccination rate of the country as a whole, but the opposite is the case today.

Short video at link with English subtitles.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1423322271503028228

[stix213]

Vaccination percentage being higher in severe patients vs total patients is what you would expect to see if ADE was occurring by the way.

[71MUSTY]

Israeli news now reporting 85-90% of hospitalizations are for vaccinated, and 95% of severe patients are vaccinated. If the vaccine were reducing illness severity, you would generally assume that the percentage of severe patients would likely be lower than the percentage of total patients as far as percentage vaccinated, and lower than the vaccination rate of the country as a whole, but the opposite is the case today.

Short video at link with English subtitles.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1423322271503028228

Since Israel has one of the highest vaccination rates (almost 90%) it only makes sense that most patients were vaccinated. And no it does not prove ADE. As of now there is no evidence ADE is happening just fearmongers spreading false news.

[stix213]

Since Israel has one of the highest vaccination rates (almost 90%) it only makes sense that most patients were vaccinated. And no it does not prove ADE. As of now there is no evidence ADE is happening just fearmongers spreading false news.

I never used the word "prove". I just said what you would expect to see if ADE is happening is in line with what we are seeing. It proves nothing, but should be concerning enough to warrant a thorough investigation whether it really is happening.

As for the percentage of vaccination, what you said is technically correct. But with the claim that the vaccine reducing disease severity, if that were true today, you would expect a lower vaccination percentage in the severe case group vs both the total hospitalization group, and the overall population vaccination percentage.

For example, with 80%+ of the population vaccinated, and 85-90% of hospitalizations vaccinated, a number of 70% or so of vaccinations in the severe patient group would be in line with that claim, and anecdotal evidence that the vaccine is living up to its sales pitch. But 95% is the opposite of that.

[The Gleam]

They've been in zoom meetings all week - trying to come up with the next spin...

But the Zoom meetings are taking 4 times as long because nobody can understand what anyone else is saying; not because of the nonsense they are floating, but because they are all wearing masks... alone. On camera. Remotely.

[Sgt. J Beezy]

Since Israel has one of the highest vaccination rates (almost 90%) it only makes sense that most patients were vaccinated. And no it does not prove ADE. As of now there is no evidence ADE is happening just fearmongers spreading false news.

[Sgt. J Beezy]

I never used the word "prove". I just said what you would expect to see if ADE is happening is in line with what we are seeing. It proves nothing, but should be concerning enough to warrant a thorough investigation whether it really is happening.

As for the percentage of vaccination, what you said is technically correct. But with the claim that the vaccine reducing disease severity, if that were true today, you would expect a lower vaccination percentage in the severe case group vs both the total hospitalization group, and the overall population vaccination percentage.

For example, with 80%+ of the population vaccinated, and 85-90% of hospitalizations vaccinated, a number of 70% or so of vaccinations in the severe patient group would be in line with that claim, and anecdotal evidence that the vaccine is living up to its sales pitch. But 95% is the opposite of that.

If the experimental vaxxine worked I would expect to see close to 0 hospitalizations and severe cases of the WuFlu and definitely 0 deaths.

Man, the vaxxed must really start feeling like **** now. The worst part is, instead of admitting they were duped, most will double-down on the MSM/CDC/CPP narrative.


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[M14 Junkie]

Israel was one of the first countries to push the vax upon the population. While there are deaths among the remaining unvaccinated it's interesting to note that the death rate among the vaccinated is climbing as well. They are now pushing a 3rd Dose upon the elderly.

The vaccine isn't working as intended. (Oh it was just a prophylactic? Not working for that either - could even be causing this 3rd wave.)

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/...sraeli-vaccine

I find it extremely weird that Alex Berenson had his daughter vaccinated last week.

He said it during an interview on Tucker. He said that she went for a "wellness" family doctor check and he decided to go ahead and have her vaccinated. I do not know how old his daughter is.

I could not F'ing believe it! Now, he did not elaborate whether she had to have it to enter college or whatever, he did not say what the circumstances were that provoked his decision.

I can say that when he was talking about it, he seemed to be tearing up.

[The Gleam]

I never used the word "prove". I just said what you would expect to see if ADE is happening is in line with what we are seeing. It proves nothing, but should be concerning enough to warrant a thorough investigation whether it really is happening.

My view of this too. I WANT to get vaccinated, but I have no confidence in these vaccines, and less so each and every day.

That's especially true as the science admitted by the same verified sources by those pushing the vaccines cite, reveals anemic efficacy, AND worse, indicators like this are being dismissed, belittled, ignored, and even buried as supposed 'misinformation'.

That latter part alone is a red flag, when up against a push to vaccinate everyone, regardless of newly seen anomalies, which appears politically motivated just to reach a number, putting quantity over quality.

These statistics warrant investigation and further study and anyone should be cautious and wary of those and their motives, that simply want to pretend they don't exist, all to win an argument or feed an agenda that is NOT related to safety and health.

No I don't believe it's conspiracy theories, nor is their maliscious intent, but to ignore these indicators without applying study, is negligence, even unethical.

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[sigfan91]

If the experimental vaxxine worked I would expect to see close to 0 hospitalizations and severe cases of the WuFlu and definitely 0 deaths.

Man, the vaxxed must really start feeling like **** now. The worst part is, instead of admitting they were duped, most will double-down on the MSM/CDC/CPP narrative.


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The spin:

We would have seen much higher death count, hospitalization count, and positive cases but for this vaccine. So please, get vaccinated and wear a mask. We are in this together.

[M14 Junkie]

[QUOTE=The Gleam;26027770]My view of this too. I WANT to get vaccinated, but I have no confidence in these vaccines, and less so each and every day.

Why TF do you want the government to inject a poison into your body!? I suppose it's that you buy the narrative that they push.

That, this is a "novel" virus, unlike any other, where aerosolized droplets emitted from people's noses and mouths HANG IN THE AIR LIKE RADIOACTIVE FALLOUT.

That is what the "Mask Davidians" believe. Are you one of them?

[Sgt. J Beezy]

The spin:

We would have seen much higher death count, hospitalization count, and positive cases but for this vaccine. So please, get vaccinated and wear a mask. We are in this together.

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