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  • #31
    bigbossman
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Dec 2012
    • 11017

    Originally posted by bigmike82
    Vaccines have been used successfully for decades to eradicate diseases. The covid vaccines are some of the safest in history.


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    • #32
      M14 Junkie
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2009
      • 733

      Originally posted by bigmike82
      Simple answer.

      Covid is a horrifically serious disease that we haven't seen in 100 years. It has killed over 600,000 of your fellow citizens, destroyed a massive amount of small businesses, and is not going away anytime soon.

      The antivax movement pushed by tools here are a direct result of Russian propaganda, ignorance, fear and lies.

      Vaccines have been used successfully for decades to eradicate diseases. The covid vaccines are some of the safest in history.

      You want the economy to improve? Get kids back in schools without masks? Prevent your friends and families from dying? Get the vaccine.

      And if you choose not to, that's okay too. Just do it because you understand the risks and uncertainties, not because the trolls here argue that covid isn't serious or that the vaccine is dangerous. It isn't. You won't go flaccid, you won't die, and none of us are important enough for Bill Gates to track us via the 5G implant.
      MK-Ultra? Manchurian candidate?

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      • #33
        Dan_Eastvale
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Apr 2013
        • 10062

        Originally posted by bigmike82

        You want the economy to improve? Get kids back in schools without masks?
        Already like that here. By popular demand.

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        • #34
          WingDings
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2016
          • 1278

          Originally posted by bigmike82
          The antivax movement pushed by tools here are a direct result of Russian propaganda

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          • #35
            ACfixer
            Calguns Addict
            • Feb 2012
            • 6053

            Originally posted by bigmike82
            The antivax movement pushed by tools here are a direct result of Russian propaganda, ignorance, fear and lies.

            Vaccines have been used successfully for decades to eradicate diseases. The covid vaccines are some of the safest in history.

            You want the economy to improve? Get kids back in schools without masks? Prevent your friends and families from dying? Get the vaccine.
            Ohhhh wow, yeah good point. I didn't realize you felt this way, nor was I aware of the Russian involvement in trying to deceive me. Here all along I though it was my own government trying to force me to get a shot of experimental medicine with no idea what the one, five, or twenty year side effects might be.

            Damn those dirty Russians, thank you for helping me see the light Mike, I am going to get shoot that stuff into my system immediately. I feel good knowing this will save MANY lives.

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            • #36
              bigmike82
              Bit Pusher
              CGN Contributor
              • Jan 2008
              • 3876

              Putin thanks you guys for your service. And unlike spies and traitors in the past, you guys do it for free. What a bargain.
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              • #37
                Tere_Hanges
                Calguns Addict
                • Mar 2013
                • 6268

                Originally posted by bigmike82
                Putin thanks you guys for your service. And unlike spies and traitors in the past, you guys do it for free. What a bargain.
                The Russians? Seriously? People are just confused and distrustful, thats why they refuse the vaccine.

                Democrats and mainstream media have been lying about everything for so long a lot of people dont know which end is up anymore. The Russians have nothing to do with it.

                You sound crazier than the antivaxxers. I didnt even think that was possible.
                Last edited by Tere_Hanges; 08-01-2021, 1:54 PM.
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                • #38
                  gimebakmybulits
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 992

                  Originally posted by bigmike82
                  Putin thanks you guys for your service. And unlike spies and traitors in the past, you guys do it for free. What a bargain.
                  Still haven't figured out the Chinese are the problem and not the Rooshins? I guess that's a given considering your level of intelligence..
                  Can't wait to see your well thought out response....
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                  • #39
                    bigmike82
                    Bit Pusher
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 3876

                    Originally posted by California_Deplorable
                    The Russians? Seriously? People are just confused and distrustful, thats why they refuse the vaccine.

                    Democrats and mainstream media have been lying about everything for so long a lot of people dont know which end is up anymore. The Russians have nothing to do with it.

                    You sound crazier than the antivaxxers. I didnt even think that was possible.
                    Our intelligence agencies and the EU have seen this though. Are they crazy too?
                    -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0

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                    • #40
                      Tere_Hanges
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 6268

                      Originally posted by bigmike82
                      Our intelligence agencies and the EU have seen this though. Are they crazy too?
                      Just stop.
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                      Note that those who have repeatedly expressed enough vile and incoherent content as to render your views irrelevant, have been placed on my ignore list. Thank you for helping me improve my experience and direct my attention towards those who are worthy of it. God bless your toxic little souls.

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                      • #41
                        bigmike82
                        Bit Pusher
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 3876

                        Originally posted by California_Deplorable
                        Just stop.
                        So ... thats a yes then? Our intel pros are crazy because... why exactly?
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                        • #42
                          ACfixer
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Feb 2012
                          • 6053

                          Originally posted by bigmike82
                          So ... thats a yes then? Our intel pros are crazy because... why exactly?
                          The ones that said there were WMD's in Iraq and relied on a dossier paid for by Hillary that said Trump was a Russian spy. You mean those pros right?
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                          • #43
                            IronsightsRifleman
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2020
                            • 874

                            Your simple question has a deep answer. The good news is that the answer is well reasoned and complete. The bad new is that knowing the answer will not help you change the situation.
                            What was that line from Pulp Fiction - You can like Elvis and the Beatles, but fundamentally you're either an Elvis Man or A Beatles Man. In the same sense, the world is divisible into Group People and Individual People.
                            The Individuals make decision based on an analytical process. They may form strong opinions about an idea but, when presented with new information they are not threatened by changing their position because they get to be right in both cases: they made the right choice based on the original data and the right choice based on the new data.
                            Group People operate on a different paradigm. They form opinions based on a plausible initial hypothesis and an ongoing group narrative. They believe in the group. They do not need to understand the details themselves, they can rely on the group science. For these people, new facts and data do not change their opinions because they still have their hypothesis and their group narrative - facts don't changes their position, they simply modify their narrative. No global warming? Not a problem, just change the name to climate change. In fact, contrary data is a threat because it exposes the flaws in their decision paradigm. As a result, they will always defend their group position and, indeed, demand that others join their group. The larger their group, the more correct they feel in their decisions.
                            Each of us, to some extent, operates in both group mode and an individual mode. But, ultimately, your either an Elvis Man or a Beatles man.

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                            • #44
                              BajaJames83
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Jun 2011
                              • 6033

                              My body my choice, their body their choice if someone wants to get the is 100% THEIR decision qnd same goes for those who do NOT want to get.
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                              • #45
                                SPUTTER
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Jun 2009
                                • 7504

                                Not the Russians, BigMike

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