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  • #46
    meno377
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    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Jul 2013
    • 4911

    Originally posted by Two Shots
    Why does the Anti-Vac crowd do the same ?
    One party wants to be left alone. The other party wants to meddle. You decide where the "Anti-Vac" crowd stands.
    Originally posted by Fjold
    I've been married so long that I don't even look both ways when I cross the street.
    Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program.
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    • #47
      Two Shots
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2007
      • 2022

      Originally posted by meno377
      One party wants to be left alone. The other party wants to meddle. You decide where the "Anti-Vac" crowd stands.
      IMO: The Anti-Vac crowd post a lot more about how bad the Vac is from unreliable sources and seem like the "LOOK AT ME" types, I don't see people meddling except the Gov't.

      I decided both sides have Karen's that just like to stir the pot without real knowledge of what is taking place, these types tend to get their news/stats/opinion from unreliable sources.
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      • #48
        meno377
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        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Jul 2013
        • 4911

        Originally posted by Two Shots
        IMO: The Anti-Vac crowd post a lot more about how bad the Vac is from unreliable sources and seem like the "LOOK AT ME" types,
        I agree that some posters do. But there are clearly other posters who push for the jab without any facts other than a link that has no accountability and yet it's none of their business.


        I don't see people meddling except the Gov't.
        They are here for sure. I won't name them on this site or thread but they are clearly among us.

        I decided both sides have Karen's that just like to stir the pot without real knowledge of what is taking place, these types tend to get their news/stats/opinion from unreliable sources.
        Agree.
        Originally posted by Fjold
        I've been married so long that I don't even look both ways when I cross the street.
        Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program.
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        • #49
          bootstrap
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2015
          • 1239

          "Get the shot" says the guy who doesn't comprehend the data in the MSM parroted 12% vs. the actual 82% spontaneous abortions/miscarriages/DEAD BABIES of preggos who get the rona jab in their first term vs. those who received the jab in their 3rd term who should be totally excluded from these numbers.

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          • #50
            FNH5-7
            Calguns Addict
            • Sep 2009
            • 9402

            Originally posted by bigmike82
            https://www.npr.org/2021/07/16/10170...e-unvaccinated

            "There is a clear message that is coming through: This is becoming a pandemic of the unvaccinated," Dr. Rochelle Walensky, the CDC's director, said at a Friday briefing of the White House COVID-19 Response Team. "Our biggest concern is we are going to continue to see preventable cases, hospitalizations and sadly deaths among the unvaccinated."

            More than 99% of recent deaths were among the unvaccinated, infectious disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci said earlier this month on NBC's Meet the Press, while Walensky noted on Friday that unvaccinated people accounted for over 97% of hospitalizations.

            The vaccine doesn't make you flaccid; it won't turn you into a zombie; It won't kill you.

            Get the shot.
            Originally posted by VictorFranko
            If you are vaccinated and the only people dying are the unvaccinated, WTF is to you? Two threads on this in two days on the same subject matter, you seem to have an agenda.

            Once again, why worry your pretty little head if only the unvaccinated are dying, WTF is it to you?
            So OP, do you have an answer? Or do you just post bull ****?
            Originally posted by FalconLair
            I weep for my country and what it is becoming.

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            • #51
              therealnickb
              King- Lifetime
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Oct 2011
              • 8919

              Fear is still being driven by the a holes.

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              • #52
                LBDamned
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Feb 2011
                • 19040

                Originally posted by therealnickb
                "Attempted" Fear is still being driven by the a holes.
                fify = "attempted"

                the fearful ones already wear a mask and got jabbed... they bang their heads against the wall trying to get others to join the fear. They fail.
                "Kamala is a radical leftist lunatic" ~ Donald J. Trump

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                • #53
                  nitehawk117
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                  • Feb 2013
                  • 136

                  Originally posted by sd_shooter
                  The vaxxed have an irrational fear of death
                  Exactly, they are the ones driving around in their cars by themselves with the windows up wearing a mask and face shield.

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                  • #54
                    f14peter
                    Member
                    • Dec 2016
                    • 116

                    Originally posted by bigmike82
                    https://www.npr.org/2021/07/16/10170...e-unvaccinated

                    "There is a clear message that is coming through: This is becoming a pandemic of the unvaccinated," Dr. Rochelle Walensky, the CDC's director, said at a Friday briefing of the White House COVID-19 Response Team. "Our biggest concern is we are going to continue to see preventable cases, hospitalizations and sadly deaths among the unvaccinated."

                    More than 99% of recent deaths were among the unvaccinated, infectious disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci said earlier this month on NBC's Meet the Press, while Walensky noted on Friday that unvaccinated people accounted for over 97% of hospitalizations.

                    The vaccine doesn't make you flaccid; it won't turn you into a zombie; It won't kill you.

                    Get the shot.
                    Originally posted by 2shotjoe
                    So last night I saw the UK's version of Fauxci (This Valance chap) correct himself, that he meant to say 60% of the Queen's subjects being hospitalized for COVID are unvaccinated (originally stated 60% were fully vaxxed).

                    However, having watched Donald Duck in Mathland (more then once mind you, it's a brilliant work of cinematic art), I know that means 40% of the aforementioned loyal servants of the Crown being in hospital HAVE BEEN FULLY VACCINATED. That's a pretty pathetic (non)success rate.

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                    • #55
                      bigmike82
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                      CGN Contributor
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 3876

                      Originally posted by FNH5-7
                      So OP, do you have an answer? Or do you just post bull ****?
                      Are you seriously wondering if there's answer for "Why do we care to prevent more deaths from the deadliest pandemic since the Spanish Flu"?

                      Yeah.

                      Preventing massive numbers of people dying is something the government ought to try to do.

                      We send cops to stop murderers.
                      We send the feds to stop terrorists.
                      We regulate medicine to make sure it's safe and effective.
                      We regulate cars to make sure they don't explode when someone crashes into you.

                      This is a bloody ridiculous question.
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                      • #56
                        Sousuke
                        Veteran Member
                        • Mar 2012
                        • 3815

                        Originally posted by f14peter
                        So last night I saw the UK's version of Fauxci (This Valance chap) correct himself, that he meant to say 60% of the Queen's subjects being hospitalized for COVID are unvaccinated (originally stated 60% were fully vaxxed).

                        However, having watched Donald Duck in Mathland (more then once mind you, it's a brilliant work of cinematic art), I know that means 40% of the aforementioned loyal servants of the Crown being in hospital HAVE BEEN FULLY VACCINATED. That's a pretty pathetic (non)success rate.
                        You have to take into account vaccine rate as a proportion of the overall population to understand how well the vaccines are working.

                        As of today here in the UK, we have 68.8% fully vaccinated.

                        There are 56m adults in the UK. So that's about 38 million vaccinated and about 18m who are not.

                        There are about 4500 total patients in hospital so that breaks down to 2700 unvaccinated and 1800 vaccinated.

                        Current rate of hospitalisation for unvaccinated - 1 in 6666
                        Current rate of hospitalisation for vaccinated - 1 in 21100

                        (I'm going to caveat the above on two points. One has to assume that a few children might be in hospital which is outside of the adult figures. Second. As far as I am aware the UK gov. does not take into account time after second dose to determine if a person is 'fully vaccinated'. This means that someone who had their second does on a Tuesday and then caught the virus on a Friday might be counted as fully vaccinated whereas there would not have been time for full antibody/T cell response by that point. I am sure some fraction of those in hospital noted as fully vaccinated check that box).

                        In addition, overall hospitalisations are much lower to case rate than previous waves up to this point.
                        Last edited by Sousuke; 07-21-2021, 2:05 AM.
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                        • #57
                          SPUTTER
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 7504

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                          • #58
                            sd_shooter
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 13649

                            Originally posted by bigmike82
                            Are you seriously wondering if there's answer for "Why do we care to prevent more deaths from the deadliest pandemic since the Spanish Flu"?

                            Yeah.

                            Preventing massive numbers of Postponing people dying is something the government ought to try to do.

                            We no longer send cops to stop murderers.
                            We no longer send the feds to stop terrorists.
                            We seldom regulate medicine to make sure it's safe and effective.
                            We regulate cars to make sure they don't explode are very unreliable
                            when someone crashes into you.

                            This is a bloody ridiculous question.
                            FIFY - you must be thinking of the USA of the past

                            (Oh BTW you read Mother Jones? It explains everything )

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                            • #59
                              LBDamned
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Feb 2011
                              • 19040

                              Originally posted by bigmike82
                              Are you seriously wondering if there's answer for "Why do we care to prevent more deaths from the deadliest pandemic since the Spanish Flu"?

                              Yeah.

                              Preventing massive numbers of people dying is something the government ought to try to do.

                              We send cops to stop murderers.
                              We send the feds to stop terrorists.
                              We regulate medicine to make sure it's safe and effective.
                              We regulate cars to make sure they don't explode when someone crashes into you.

                              This is a bloody ridiculous question.
                              Are you British?

                              That would explain A LOT.
                              "Kamala is a radical leftist lunatic" ~ Donald J. Trump

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                              • #60
                                CAL.BAR
                                CGSSA OC Chapter Leader
                                • Nov 2007
                                • 5632

                                Originally posted by Livetoride33
                                No.
                                Brilliant argument there. Really thought out. Which Faux news host are you quoting.

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