Covid deaths are driven by the unvaccinated

[CAL.BAR]

One party wants to be left alone. The other party wants to meddle. You decide where the "Anti-Vac" crowd stands.

Public health is not "meddling". It wasn't "meddling" when your parents vaccinated YOU against polio, chickenpox, smallpox, measels, mumps, rubella, and many others.

It's not "meddling" when society tells you to build your house so it doesn't fall down in hurt you or your family or when buildings must be built properly. It isn't "meddling" when society tells you to drive on the roads in a certain way so someone ELSE isn't hurt by YOUR driving. It's called living in society. EVERYTHING you do affects someone else. Whether you like it or not.

[meno377]

Public health is not "meddling". It wasn't "meddling" when your parents vaccinated YOU against polio, chickenpox, smallpox, measels, mumps, rubella, and many others.

It's not "meddling" when society tells you to build your house so it doesn't fall down in hurt you or your family or when buildings must be built properly. It isn't "meddling" when society tells you to drive on the roads in a certain way so someone ELSE isn't hurt by YOUR driving. It's called living in society. EVERYTHING you do affects someone else. Whether you like it or not.

Apples and oranges. Not relevant. Telling someone to drive safely is completely different than telling someone to get a vaccine.

[bigbossman]

We regulate medicine to make sure it's safe and effective.

This one in particular made me laugh out loud

[bigbossman]

Public health is not "meddling".

And this particular vaccine isn't about "public health", whether you like it or not.

[theLBC]

Are you seriously wondering if there's answer for "Why do we care to prevent more deaths from the deadliest pandemic since the Spanish Flu"?

Yeah.

Preventing massive numbers of people dying is something the government ought to try to do.

We send cops to stop murderers.
We send the feds to stop terrorists.
We regulate medicine to make sure it's safe and effective.
We regulate cars to make sure they don't explode when someone crashes into you.

This is a bloody ridiculous question.

ahahhahaha!

https://www.mdlinx.com/article/10-dangerous-drugs-recalled-by-the-fda/lfc-4008

all of them passed the "gold standard" clinical trials, and turned out to be harmful or deadly.

The FDA has three classes of recall: Those products that merely violate the FDA’s labeling or manufacturing laws; those that might cause a temporary health problem or pose a slightly serious threat; and those dangerous or defective products that could cause serious health problems or death. Here are 10 drugs (primarily from the latter class) that were recalled and eventually pulled from the market altogether.

[theLBC]

Valdecoxib (Bextra)

Time on the market: 2001-2005

Valdecoxib is an NSAID that the FDA later determined worked no better than other NSAID pain medications on the market. The drug was recalled for adverse heart effects including death, heart attack, and stroke, as well as increased risk for serious skin reactions, such as epidermal necrolysis, erythema multiforme, and Stevens-Johnson syndrome. To boot, the drug had the potential to cause gastrointestinal bleeding. Yikes!

[theLBC]

Rofecoxib (Vioxx)

Time on the market: 1999-2004

This selective NSAID for arthritis infamously heightened the risks for heart attack and stroke, and was tied to nearly 28,000 heart attacks in the US population between 1999 and 2003. Researchers reported that the drug resulted in an estimated four heart attacks per 1,000 patients who took it. Its manufacturer, Merck, voluntarily pulled it from the market in 2004. In total, this drug was given to more than 20 million people.

[WOODY2]

https://www.npr.org/2021/07/16/10170...e-unvaccinated

"There is a clear message that is coming through: This is becoming a pandemic of the unvaccinated," Dr. Rochelle Walensky, the CDC's director, said at a Friday briefing of the White House COVID-19 Response Team. "Our biggest concern is we are going to continue to see preventable cases, hospitalizations and sadly deaths among the unvaccinated."

More than 99% of recent deaths were among the unvaccinated, infectious disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci said earlier this month on NBC's Meet the Press, while Walensky noted on Friday that unvaccinated people accounted for over 97% of hospitalizations.

The vaccine doesn't make you flaccid; it won't turn you into a zombie; It won't kill you.

Get the shot.

Yet.

[JoshlikesARs]

IMO: The Anti-Vac crowd post a lot more about how bad the Vac is from unreliable sources and seem like the "LOOK AT ME" types, I don't see people meddling except the Gov't.

I decided both sides have Karen's that just like to stir the pot without real knowledge of what is taking place, these types tend to get their news/stats/opinion from unreliable sources.

What is considered a reliable source now? From what I have seen every agency in the government and news agency is dripping with conflicts of interest.

On a local level and business and professions code conflicts of interest are taken very seriously. On a National political level? They get enriched and its brushed under the rug. Do you disagree?

[bigmike82]

ahahhahaha!

https://www.mdlinx.com/article/10-dangerous-drugs-recalled-by-the-fda/lfc-4008

And? Your point? That doesn't mean we don't regulate medicines to be safe. In fact, the recalls demonstrate exactly my point. These are the regulations working as intended.

[seal20]

REGULATIONS WORK!!!

WE'RE FROM THE GOVERNMENT.

WE'RE HERE TO HELP YOU.

PLEASE JUST SIGN HERE.

THANK YOU.

[theLBC]

And? Your point? That doesn't mean we don't regulate medicines to be safe. In fact, the recalls demonstrate exactly my point. These are the regulations working as intended.

what it actually demonstrates is that the pharma companies can manipulate or fake the data in their clinical trials to make their products appear safe, when they are demonstrably not safe.

personally, i would not trust a company that makes billions more than they are penalized when they are caught killing people with their fraud.

[SPUTTER]

Rofecoxib (Vioxx)

Time on the market: 1999-2004

This selective NSAID for arthritis infamously heightened the risks for heart attack and stroke, and was tied to nearly 28,000 heart attacks in the US population between 1999 and 2003. Researchers reported that the drug resulted in an estimated four heart attacks per 1,000 patients who took it. Its manufacturer, Merck, voluntarily pulled it from the market in 2004. In total, this drug was given to more than 20 million people.

Dang. This covid thing is starting to make me take a second look at the medical industry. Maybe the health nuts are on to something.

[Sousuke]

what it actually demonstrates is that the pharma companies can manipulate or fake the data in their clinical trials to make their products appear safe, when they are demonstrably not safe.

personally, i would not trust a company that makes billions more than they are penalized when they are caught killing people with their fraud.

So you take no prescriptions ever and are completely unvaccinated against anything then?

[theLBC]

So you take no prescriptions ever and are completely unvaccinated against anything then?

the only prescription drug i have taken in over 40 years is a broad spectrum antibiotic, like z-pak once for some kind of abscess i had in my armpit 10 years ago.

i have never to my knowledge gotten a flu vax, but i am sure i got all the childhood vaccines.