serious question

[ACfixer]

I don't worry too much about the clowns.

Sure, I've gotten a lot of positive feedback. It also helps me work out and test my own opinions. How about you?

I enjoy reading... to a point.

You know you can whip up the tastiest chicken salad ever using the finest ingredients, but if there's one piece of chicken **** in there you can ignore it and eat around it I suppose... Me, I'm throwing the whole salad in the garbage.

does anyone even read the wall of texts?

I was wondering that.

[chrisw]

OP, I understand you asked your question in all seriousness, but the problem here is

Don't go dragging me into this, this is as_rocketmans thread now

[LBDamned]

Don't go dragging me into this, this is as_rocketmans thread now

LMAO!

[as_rocketman]

Don't go dragging me into this, this is as_rocketmans thread now

This is a together thread. I'll share.

[Libertarian777]

If a vaxed person can catch and transmit, how is an unvaxed person a risk to those that are vaxed?

Don't go dragging me into this, this is as_rocketmans thread now

you asked for it chrisw...

https://www.businessinsider.com/delta-variant-who-fully-vaccinated-wear-masks-2021-6?op=1

now keep wearing your 2 masks, i prefer a plastic bag with a ziptie. 100% effective against Covid. GUARANTEED. Double Blind RCT proved that NO people who put plastic bags over their head with zip ties die from Covid, and do NOT transmit the virus to vaccinated or unvaccinated people.

They died from asphyxiation. But that's a side effect and was reported in VAERS. It's not statistically significant. pvalue = 0.00001. Pretty much zero chance it was random that a plastic bag killed the effect group.
The NIH said the ARR is 99.99% for plastic bags and thus RECOMMENDED.

[LBDamned]

^^^ in 2020 would have been recorded as covid.

[SanDiego619]

does anyone even read the wall of texts?

they need to use PM... the one-upmanship of who can write the longest post is nauseating.

I don't, I think it's a huge waste of time. I know the covid is a hoax and I am never getting the vaccine no matter what.

[chrisw]

NOW we're getting somewhere.... good strong science

you asked for it chrisw...

https://www.businessinsider.com/delta-variant-who-fully-vaccinated-wear-masks-2021-6?op=1

now keep wearing your 2 masks, i prefer a plastic bag with a ziptie. 100% effective against Covid. GUARANTEED. Double Blind RCT proved that NO people who put plastic bags over their head with zip ties die from Covid, and do NOT transmit the virus to vaccinated or unvaccinated people.

They died from asphyxiation. But that's a side effect and was reported in VAERS. It's not statistically significant. pvalue = 0.00001. Pretty much zero chance it was random that a plastic bag killed the effect group.
The NIH said the ARR is 99.99% for plastic bags and thus RECOMMENDED.

[subscriber]

I don't worry too much about the clowns.

The clown in my chair finally got the explanation he was looking for: https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/...&postcount=112

Thank you.

[SanDiego619]

F the vaccine

Covid is BS

[Sousuke]

ETA: It is surprisingly hard to verify the relative distribution of different vaccines in the UK. Let me know if you have a good source.

I believe there is a political reason for that. The government had a policy of not publishing how many of each vaccine was used because of the issues between the EU and AstraZenica on slow deliveries. By publishing actual usage, the worry was that it would give the EU ammunition against Astra Zenica and also potentially cause the EU to block Pfizer imports to the UK.

The way the roll out went, I can give you a pretty good baseline though.

At the beginning of the roll out there was a large stockpile of Pfizer, so first responders and over 70 year olds would have gotten both Pfizer and AZ at about 50/50 rates.

However by the time they moved to 60 year olds, they were starting to only reserve Pfizer for second shots. Therefore, 40-60 year olds would have predominantly received the AZ vaccine (probably as high as 80/20).

By the time 30 year olds were eligible, Moderna was available though I believe only 10m doses. It was also at this time that blood clots in younger women became a concern, therefore 20/30 year olds then had the choice to skip AZ for Moderna or Pfizer. I'd say 30 year olds probably received something like 50/40/10 (AZ/Pfizer/Moderna). 20 Year olds seem much more likely to get Pfizer so I'd imagine its something like 30/60/10 for them.

I'm sure it is the same in the US, but there is also a city / rural divide. If you live in a village or a small town without a hospital you were much more likely to get the AZ vaccine because of the cooling requirements of Pfizer.

[as_rocketman]

I believe there is a political reason for that. The government had a policy of not publishing how many of each vaccine was used because of the issues between the EU and AstraZenica on slow deliveries. By publishing actual usage, the worry was that it would give the EU ammunition against Astra Zenica and also potentially cause the EU to block Pfizer imports to the UK.

Thanks for that. It is unfortunate that we have to work so hard to get good data, though.

We in the USA had (still have...) a vaguely similar problem with Janssen vaccine production, so it lagged quite a bit. But I can still find statistics for each vaccine pretty easily. No reason it can't be the same way in other countries.

[theduracellbigd]

Wow, some of you guys sure do a lot of writing trying to convince some other clown on the internet that you're right. Have you changed any minds?

Great point I literally laughed out loud.

[as_rocketman]

The clown in my chair finally got the explanation he was looking for: https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/...&postcount=112

Thank you.

Sir...

I don't mean to alarm you, but...

I have reason to believe there are CLOWNS in your house!

[mshill]

So my incidental data... my mother in law (80 yrs) and her husband (86 yrs) both just contracted the coof from my sister in law who lives in their basement and has been sick going on 7 days. My sister in law thought she would be safe from it because she takes HCQ regularly for a form of traveling arthritis and both my mother in law and her husband were vaccinated a couple months ago.

So my observations: the vaccines don't work and HCQ is not a prophylactic.

My mother in laws husband was admitted to the hospital this morning. He has a pacemaker and a few other health issues... I hope for her sake they don't intubate him.