Unconfigured Ad Widget

Collapse

serious question

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • #91
    SanDiego619
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2013
    • 11954

    Turn off the TV and let go of the fear.

    It's just the flu.
    Where the people fear the government you have tyranny. Where the government fears the people you have liberty.

    Comment

    • #92
      SPUTTER
      Calguns Addict
      • Jun 2009
      • 7504

      Originally posted by as_rocketman
      So you don't believe in the binomial distribution??

      There are a few things we need to refine with this stuff, sure, but there is no doubt whatsoever of vaccine efficacy.

      I'm not concerned about the "delta variant," that's mostly newspaper confusion. Early studies confirm the expected result that vaccination is also proof against this particular strain. Someday the virus may evolve a significant escape, but it's not expected given the low mutation rates and the highly conserved nature of the mRNA region used as a vaccine template.
      It takes 10+ years to prove a vaccine safe and effective. (It's already unsafe).

      Comment

      • #93
        as_rocketman
        CGSSA Leader
        • Jan 2011
        • 3057

        Originally posted by SPUTTER
        It takes 10+ years to prove a vaccine safe and effective. (It's already unsafe).
        I'm perfectly comfortable with you withholding your personal certification of approval until 2031.
        Riflemen Needed.

        Ask me about Appleseed! Send a PM or see me in the Appleseed subforum.

        Comment

        • #94
          SPUTTER
          Calguns Addict
          • Jun 2009
          • 7504

          It wouldn't be my certification of approval, it would be the approval of independent scientists who have analyzed data acquired over a number of years. That's how this is supposed to work.

          Comment

          • #95
            as_rocketman
            CGSSA Leader
            • Jan 2011
            • 3057

            Originally posted by SPUTTER
            It wouldn't be my certification of approval, it would be the approval of independent scientists who have analyzed data acquired over a number of years. That's how this is supposed to work.
            Wasn't aware that you chaired an immunology regulatory agency. Why didn't you inform us before?
            Riflemen Needed.

            Ask me about Appleseed! Send a PM or see me in the Appleseed subforum.

            Comment

            • #96
              SPUTTER
              Calguns Addict
              • Jun 2009
              • 7504

              Time to put those blinders on.

              Last edited by SPUTTER; 07-03-2021, 12:06 PM.

              Comment

              • #97
                SanDiego619
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2013
                • 11954

                Originally posted by SPUTTER
                Time to put those blinders on.

                [ATTACH]1025221[/ATTACH]
                What a great vaccine.
                Where the people fear the government you have tyranny. Where the government fears the people you have liberty.

                Comment

                • #98
                  SPUTTER
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 7504

                  ^ You should read the the covid vaccinated subreddit, it's overflowing with salt and regret. And it used to be pro covid vaccine...not anymore.

                  Comment

                  • #99
                    subscriber
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 929

                    Originally posted by as_rocketman
                    Methods section has the answers
                    Thanks

                    Comment

                    • as_rocketman
                      CGSSA Leader
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 3057

                      Originally posted by SPUTTER
                      Time to put those blinders on.
                      I don't think you ever took them off. I spent quite a lot of time showing you exactly what percentage of vaccinees can still be affected, and it's a few percent. This number is wholly consistent with expectations.

                      It's gotten so bad that even the press is talking down to folks like you...

                      Originally posted by Forbes Magazine
                      Regardless, let’s put the 3,907 hospitalizations and 750 deaths in proper perspective. Over 4,000 may sound like a large number when counting something like the number of marmots in your bed. Certainly any death is tragic. But consider the fact that over 150 million people in U.S. have already been fully vaccinated in U.S. Doing a quick calculation with your abacus and your fingers and toes will reveal that the 4,115 cases constitute less than 0.003% of all fully vaccinated people in the U.S. Compare that with the measured effectiveness of the Covid-19 vaccine, which has ranged from about 70 percent to 95 plus percent. That means that at least 5% of the time a vaccine won’t be able to prevent Covid-19 after exposure to the virus. As I have emphasized before, nothing in life is perfect, with the possible exception of avocado toast.
                      Now I don't necessarily approve of the snark, but I understand it.
                      Riflemen Needed.

                      Ask me about Appleseed! Send a PM or see me in the Appleseed subforum.

                      Comment

                      • stonefly-2
                        Veteran Member
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 4993

                        Originally posted by SPUTTER
                        ^ You should read the the covid vaccinated subreddit, it's overflowing with salt and regret. And it used to be pro covid vaccine...not anymore.
                        The worm has turned.
                        What do you call the people that abandoned the agenda of John Kennedy and adopted the agenda of Lee Oswald?

                        Pronouns: "Dude" and "Playa".

                        https://billstclair.com/Unintended-Consequences.pdf


                        I was born under a wandrin star.

                        Comment

                        • five.five-six
                          CGN Contributor
                          • May 2006
                          • 34814

                          Originally posted by as_rocketman
                          I don't think you ever took them off. I spent quite a lot of time showing you exactly what percentage of vaccinees can still be affected, and it's a few percent. This number is wholly consistent with expectations.

                          It's gotten so bad that even the press is talking down to folks like you...



                          Now I don't necessarily approve of the snark, but I understand it.

                          Comment

                          • SPUTTER
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 7504



                            Well so much for immunity.
                            Last edited by SPUTTER; 07-03-2021, 12:06 PM.

                            Comment

                            • subscriber
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2011
                              • 929

                              Originally posted by SPUTTER
                              [ATTACH]1025249[/ATTACH]

                              Well so much for immunity.
                              Source: https://www.wsj.com/articles/vaccina...ak-11624624326

                              Comment

                              • Sousuke
                                Veteran Member
                                • Mar 2012
                                • 3805

                                Just saw this article a few minutes ago.



                                I did a quick breakdown. You have 109 over 50s dying of the delta variant. of those 109, 50 were fully vaccinated. That sounds bad but then I did the math on the population.

                                Roughly 85% of the over 50 crowd has been vaccinated. That means there were 69 deaths for 15% of that population vs 50 for 85%.

                                If we assume there are 10 million people over the age of 50 (guessing here with a nice round figure) thats 50 per 8.5 million vs 69 per 1.5 million.

                                Also keep in mind that the vast majority of the population has the Oxford jab which is slightly inferior to the mRNA versions.
                                Everyone on Calguns keeps talking about TDS. I never knew we had so many fish keepers!

                                The TDS on my 10gallon tanks 110ppm
                                The TDS on my 29 gallon tank is 150ppm (due to substrate)

                                Comment

                                Working...
                                UA-8071174-1