Real question/scenario-vaccinated people Going back to work versus people not

[larkja]

I'm not worried either way. But if somebody is sick, I don't want to work next to them. So, as long as their courteous and stay home when sick, I'm GTG, whether vaccinated or not.

[five.five-six]

I work for a large publicly traded company. Our policy effective June 14th to align with California restrictions being lifted and
A) If you are vaccinated no mask in the work place.
B) if you choose not to be vaccinated for religious, medical, or personal reasons, the company will require you to where a mask while at work AND pass a Covid test weekly.

It has been ran up through Corporate Counsel and set to go into effect.

[McGuiver]

Real question/scenario-vaccinated people Going back to work versus people not

If a person were "vulnerable" and did not get VAXed for "medical reasons", that puts them in the disabled category.




I am a person who has dozens of documented allergies. The doctor was genuinely befuddled by the testing results. Mucking with my immune system is a bad odds bet. I sincerely believe the VAX is more dangerous than covid to me. I'm pretty sure I already had covid anyway. Arguing that with a low IQ bureaucrat about it is not going to pay off.

[Creeping Incrementalism]

At my office we have been mostly working from home, but I like to come in about once a week. I told my boss I want to continue coming into the office without vaccination, and his reply to me was in a non-hostile, reasonable way that he would be reluctant to go into the office as much as he would like to knowing that there are unvaccinated people there. He has been working 99% of the time at home since the lockdown and I have not seen him in the flesh since then (March last year).

My company recently implemented a work-from-home-forever policy and most people had already been permanently working from home since the lockdown last year anyway. The return-to-office policy is to allow any employee back into the office who wants to come in, but they must either present proof of vaccination, or get a release from HR for medical/religious/other reasons.

So for me, I will do my best to get by at home without coming into the office at all (which can be tricky for certain tasks). I may start looking for another job if my company does not eventually change its policy.

My boss is respectful towards me and I have liked working for him, but it just is not welcoming to know that he and others would be physically afraid if he came into the office and saw me there. The masks-for-the-unvaccinated proposed law would reinforce this terrible situation... I can't think of a more discriminatory move to make. That's unparalleled in America... straight out of Nazi Germany.

In my opinion, the whole point of medical privacy that has been the rule in the workplace for many years has been to avoid this type of issue, and to treat all people with respect and dignity. Despite all the diseases out there, those with vaccines and those without, regular offices have still always had medical privacy.

My hope is this coronavirus will quickly go extinct in the U.S. and these restrictions will be lifted. Highly contagious diseases generally don't last long because everyone gets them so quickly that the disease runs out of new victims, plus in this case there is a vaccine that is effective. This coronavirus does not mutate that fast compared to the flu so I think the odds are good it will disappear soon.

[Scota4570]

I have lots of allergies that are documented. I must carry an EpiPen with me for those times **** hits the fan. It has happened at the bank, coming out getting into the car. Allergy hits me. My face feels hot, lips start swelling, throat starts to close, I stick myself with my EpiPen. I think I blessed to live in this crazy time. I put it in GOD’s hands and took the vaccine. I got the Moderna one. I was one of the first, especially while working in a Hospital.

During this whole Covid lock down I only missed one day of work due to the second shot. I felt bad for 4 days and it cleared. Being in ICU and CCU every day and around Covid POS people everyday was more of a worry than my allergies. I have a co-worker who used to run half-marathons every weekend, he did not get the vaccine. He got COVID. Now he can’t run at all. His lungs are damaged to the point he is out of breath from getting out of his car and walking up stairs. He was a fitness freak. Eating healthy and everything.

This Covid **** is real. I think this is Darwinism at work, thinning the herd. To each their own. My body, my choice.


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When looking at outcomes one example does not prove anything. Glad your choices worked out for you. The point is that each person has a right to, or at least should have the right, to make their own decisions. The consequences are then the responsibility of the individual.

People are damaged an killed by the flu every year. The flu is real as is the covid flu. My mother died of the flu three years ago. That flu was just as serious to about 70K people as covid has been to each harmed individual this year.

I question the death and case numbers. I believe that if we had used the same criteria's three years ago we would have similar death and case numbers as we have today.

This Covid **** is real. I think this is Darwinism at work, thinning the herd. To each their own. My body, my choice.

..........Thinning the herd of the elderly and infirm, as all flu has always done.

Darwinisim?, possible?, but maybe to those who take the vaccines? The mRNA vaccines are unapproved and untested. Nobody knows the long term effects. I do know that I have a 99.98% of surviving covid if I get it. The chance of getting it is now extremely low. That gives me overall odds of dyeing of covid is infinitesimally small. So, I prefer not to take an unknown risk with an experimental vaccine.

We know that many aspects of covid have been deliberately lied about by or government. It has been exploited for personal and political gain. Presently we have reached herd immunity. Now those same people are insisting on VAXing children, children who are immune from serious covid consequences. Since they are known liars I can not trust them that vaccine is safe and does not have long term consequences. My body, my choice.

"he and others would be physically afraid if he came into the office and saw me there." The are obviously morons. IF they are VAXed then they are immune.

[McGuiver]

Real question/scenario-vaccinated people Going back to work versus people not

When looking at outcomes one example does not prove anything. Glad your choices worked out for you. The point is that each person has a right to, or at least should have the right, to make their own decisions. The consequences are then the responsibility of the individual.

People are damaged an killed by the flu every year. The flu is real as is the covid flu. My mother died of the flu three years ago. That flu was just as serious to about 70K people as covid has been to each harmed individual this year.

I question the death and case numbers. I believe that if we had used the same criteria's three years ago we would have similar death and case numbers as we have today.

This Covid **** is real. I think this is Darwinism at work, thinning the herd. To each their own. My body, my choice.

..........Thinning the herd of the elderly and infirm, as all flu has always done.

Darwinisim?, possible?, but maybe to those who take the vaccines? The mRNA vaccines are unapproved and untested. Nobody knows the long term effects. I do know that I have a 99.98% of surviving covid if I get it. The chance of getting it is now extremely low. That gives me overall odds of dyeing of covid is infinitesimally small. So, I prefer not to take an unknown risk with an experimental vaccine.

We know that many aspects of covid have been deliberately lied about by or government. It has been exploited for personal and political gain. Presently we have reached herd immunity. Now those same people are insisting on VAXing children, children who are immune from serious covid consequences. Since they are known liars I can not trust them that vaccine is safe and does not have long term consequences. My body, my choice.

"he and others would be physically afraid if he came into the office and saw me there." The are obviously morons. IF they are VAXed then they are immune.

[golfrj]

+1000, Thinning the Herd!

[Scota4570]

"and seeing the bodies in the morgue, or bodies heading to the morgue helped me make my choice."

The hospital is where people go to die. Get used to it and try no to let it interfere with you critical thinking skills.

That said, working in a hospital is a different risk than a retired person with screened social contacts.

[McGuiver]

Real question/scenario-vaccinated people Going back to work versus people not

"and seeing the bodies in the morgue, or bodies heading to the morgue helped me make my choice."

The hospital is where people go to die. Get used to it and try no to let it interfere with you critical thinking skills.

That said, working in a hospital is a different risk than a retired person with screened social contacts.

Hospitals are not where people go to die. Little kids are born there every day. People go to Hospitals for medical attention.

I hope when you need medical attention for a knee surgery you just do it yourself. What an ***...

I think your critical thinking skills have retired...get into reality.


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[stonefly-2]

Hospitals are not where people go to die. Little kids are born there every day. People go to Hospitals for medical attention.

I hope when you need medical attention for a knee surgery you just do it yourself. What an ***...

I think your critical thinking skills have retired...get into reality.


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He will prolly just get a new pair of knee pads.

[Scota4570]

"He will prolly just get a new pair of knee pads"

WTF is that supposed to mean?? Are you saying I am a homosexual???

When a person is gravely ill they go the hospital. Sometimes they die. That is why the hospital has morgue.

An yes some people go to the hospital for repair and maintenance. That is a very bad idea. I would strongly suggest going to a surgical center for elective surgery, or a maternity clinic for giving birth. Hospitals are a cesspool of antibiotic resistant pathogens. Avoid them if at all possible for most things. Hospitals are a very dangerous place to be.

[five.five-six]

My body my choice.