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  • #16
    Gundiver
    Banned
    • Sep 2016
    • 1030

    Originally posted by SoCal326
    The OP was talking about people with medical exemptions. They're still vulnerable. Having most of you're workforce vaccinated protects those that can't get vaccinated via 'heard immunity'

    The 'im scared of the vaccine' group would be a danger to those that want the vaccine but can't get it for medical reasons. Its pretty selfish if you ask me but I care about the people with comorbidities too.

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    • #17
      SoCal326
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2011
      • 1098

      Okay, you win. Its their fault.

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      • #18
        SanDiego619
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jan 2013
        • 11980

        I'm never getting the vaccine, just like I never have and never will get a flu shot.
        Where the people fear the government you have tyranny. Where the government fears the people you have liberty.

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        • #19
          sd_shooter
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Dec 2008
          • 13649

          Yes OP, it's exactly as you said: The vaxxers are going to be scared to death of people who are naturally immune from previous infection or who are healthy. At my company the vaxxers are demanding that everyone get the vax.

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          • #20
            joepamjohn
            Veteran Member
            • Apr 2009
            • 2709

            Just saw on channel 2 news. Looks like Santa Clara county is now going to require businesses to get proof of the employees Vax before returning to office work. Looks like those unwilling to give the information, or remain un-vaccinated will be in violation of work safety rules. In my company that’s grounds for termination. Get ready, the mark of the beast is coming!
            "You can't handle the truth"

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            • #21
              Scota4570
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2006
              • 1719

              This will not end well. A small percentage of individuals will go nuts.

              It is a pointless fight to pick, the epidemic is over, repeat over. That brings the motivations for forcing the shots into question.

              Last edited by Scota4570; 05-19-2021, 7:24 AM.

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              • #22
                five.five-six
                CGN Contributor
                • May 2006
                • 34820

                My body, my choice.

                Originally posted by SoCal326
                If they've got a medical exemption then it shouldn't be an issue. The problem is when half your workforce doesn't want to the vaccinated and they're able to spread it to vulnerable people....but if 90% of the people are vaccinated then those medically unable to get the shot are still protected

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                • #23
                  anthonyca
                  Calguns Addict
                  • May 2008
                  • 6316

                  Originally posted by sd_shooter
                  Yes OP, it's exactly as you said: The vaxxers are going to be scared to death of people who are naturally immune from previous infection or who are healthy. At my company the vaxxers are demanding that everyone get the vax.
                  What is the average profile of a vaker at your work? Male, female, liberal, conservative, wants WFH, or work at work, productive employee, unproductive, always missed a lot of work etc.

                  As someone who has hired dozens of people and lead many more, the ones pushing for others to get vaxed either have a certain personality or an alterir motive of not wanting to return to work put continue to get paid, or they are collecting unemployment.

                  I know many productive people, if not the majority who got vexed on thier own but they are not pushing it on anyone else except for some in higher up management at a competitor. I hope they keep pushing because is is pushing talent my way.
                  https://www.facebook.com/pages/Union...70812799700206

                  Originally posted by Wherryj
                  I am a physician. I am held to being "the expert" in medicine. I can't fall back on feigned ignorance and the statement that the patient should have known better than I. When an officer "can't be expected to know the entire penal code", but a citizen is held to "ignorance is no excuse", this is equivalent to ME being able to sue my patient for my own malpractice-after all, the patient should have known better, right?

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                  • #24
                    mshill
                    Veteran Member
                    • Dec 2012
                    • 4447

                    Originally posted by SoCal326
                    If they've got a medical exemption then it shouldn't be an issue. The problem is when half your workforce doesn't want to the vaccinated and they're able to spread it to vulnerable people....but if 90% of the people are vaccinated then those medically unable to get the shot are still protected
                    And how do companies account for people that have had the wu-flu and do not need/want the jab? Is the vax more effective than my body's immune system? These questions need to be answered before any company can/should be requiring something of their employees with respect to the China virus.
                    The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money.

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                    • #25
                      calif 15-22
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 5871

                      I work for a large publicly traded company. Our policy effective June 14th to align with California restrictions being lifted and
                      A) If you are vaccinated no mask in the work place.
                      B) if you choose not to be vaccinated for religious, medical, or personal reasons, the company will require you to where a mask while at work AND pass a Covid test weekly.

                      It has been ran up through Corporate Counsel and set to go into effect.
                      Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
                      It's one thing to question everything . . . It's entirely another thing to reject simple, rational explanations in favor of ever more fantastic and far reaching explanations because you've decided the government cannot be trusted.
                      Originally posted by Hoooper
                      Anyone who says the American dream requires a specific pay range doesn't understand the meaning of the American dream
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                      • #26
                        Robdog1
                        Member
                        • Feb 2021
                        • 214

                        God is great, beer is good, and people are crazy!

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                        • #27
                          mshill
                          Veteran Member
                          • Dec 2012
                          • 4447

                          Originally posted by calif 15-22
                          I work for a large publicly traded company. Our policy effective June 14th to align with California restrictions being lifted and
                          A) If you are vaccinated no mask in the work place.
                          B) if you choose not to be vaccinated for religious, medical, or personal reasons, the company will require you to where a mask while at work AND pass a Covid test weekly.

                          It has been ran up through Corporate Counsel and set to go into effect.
                          Does this qualify as a hostile work environment or harassment?
                          The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money.

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                          • #28
                            Scota4570
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2006
                            • 1719

                            Originally posted by calif 15-22
                            I work for a large publicly traded company. Our policy effective June 14th to align with California restrictions being lifted and
                            A) If you are vaccinated no mask in the work place.
                            B) if you choose not to be vaccinated for religious, medical, or personal reasons, the company will require you to where a mask while at work AND pass a Covid test weekly.

                            It has been ran up through Corporate Counsel and set to go into effect.
                            What company? I would like to sell any stock holdings I have with them.

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                            • #29
                              ACfixer
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 6053

                              Originally posted by calif 15-22
                              B) if you choose not to be vaccinated for religious, medical, or personal reasons, the company will require you to where a mask while at work AND pass a Covid test weekly.
                              Those that resist will be identified by a garment and undergo ongoing medical experiments. What a novel idea...

                              Buy made in USA whenever possible.

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                              • #30
                                SPUTTER
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Jun 2009
                                • 7504

                                Just let it play out. The vaccinated people will be forced to drop out of the workforce to deal with their health problems.

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