Vaccine after having covid

[Scota4570]

I am pretty sure I had covid early on. Serious vaccine reactions seem to happen more often with those who already had covid. AND....getting the vaccine after having covid is pointless from a protection standpoint. I do have documented allergy and immune issues. Risking the vaccine for no reason is not something I want to do.

What kind of test can I do to determine if I have covid antibodies? How do you get it?

[P5Ret]

I'd think these questions would be better asked to your physician, than random people on a gun forum.

[Sgt. J Beezy]

[Djantlive]

You can go to a hospital to check your antibody level. I gave blood and they tested that too.

[Den60]

I'd think these questions would be better asked to your physician, than random people on a gun forum.

I have my annual blood work coming in a couple of weeks. Asked my Doc if they could do an antibody test and he said "We, at Sharp Rees-Stealy, are not testing for Covid antibodies because it really provides no useful information with respect to a person's level of protection." I'm sorry, if one has had the virus one has natural immunity against it equal to if not in excess of that which the vaccine provides.

He then asked if I had been vaccinated and I told him I am still on the fence about it.

[DaveInOroValley]

One of the people we know at a local cantina said that CVS offers the test. I think it was 40.00. But we are Arizona so unsure if California CVS offers.

[mshill]

I for sure had it in December (tested positive with symptoms). I will not get the jab. If I had not had it I would probably not get it anyway.

I want a study to show that my bodies immune system is less effective than the experimental vaccine.

[Scota4570]

"I'd think these questions would be better asked to your physician, than random people on a gun forum."

What doctor?? I pay over $3K a month and have no access to a competent GP or internal medicine doctor. I shop specialists on my own. Welcome to socialized medicine and affirmative action medical schools.

There are people who regularly post on this forum who know more than most of the affirmative action kool-aid drinking managed care quacks.

"I have my annual blood work coming in a couple of weeks. Asked my Doc if they could do an antibody test and he said "We, at Sharp Rees-Stealy, are not testing for Covid antibodies because it really provides no useful information with respect to a person's level of protection."

I'm sorry, if one has had the virus one has natural immunity against it equal to if not in excess of that which the vaccine provides."

I agree, which is why I wan to find out for sure.

"Covid antibodies because it really provides no useful information with respect to a person's level of protection."

Your doctor is an idiot. He is also wrong. You should find another before he kills you. His, regurgitating that position is a red flag that "THEY" want to get a needle in everyone for reasons other than covid protection.

[/I]"I want a study to show that my bodies immune system is less effective than the experimental vaccine." [/I] Me too. T-cell immunity is lifetime and very effective. The vaccine provide short term protection. They are already flogging booster shots in the fall.

[Sppotlight]

You can get an antibody test at any major lab. I got one done months ago at a OneMedical, took less than 5 min. The caveat is that, even if you had covid, your antibody test may come back negative anyway if the timing is wrong - either too soon after the disease (like a few weeks), or too long (like a year).

[Den60]

One of the people we know at a local cantina said that CVS offers the test. I think it was 40.00. But we are Arizona so unsure if California CVS offers.

Yep, local CVS with "Minute Cinics" have the antibody test for $38.00.

[GlassJax]

[Kickstand]

if one has had the virus one has natural immunity against it equal to if not in excess of that which the vaccine provides.

https://www.contagionlive.com/view/immune-response-from-mrna-covid-19-vaccines-is-more-robust-than-natural-infection

[Scota4570]

Not true. It’s becoming clear that the mRNA vaccine has broader protective coverage for variants and re-infection than natural immunity. Think of the vaccine as like a “skeleton key” that works on many locks, and natural immunity as a key fitted for just a single door.

https://www.contagionlive.com/view/i...ural-infection

That study of 9 individuals refutes conventional wisdon.

The more convention wisdom is linked below.

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/lasting-immunity-found-after-recovery-covid-19

I read that, recent examinations of the 1919 flu survivors show that after 100 years they are still immune. That makes sense too. We don't need dozens of booster shots every year for various infectious diseases. The idea that the covid shots are far better than natural immunity yet, they will require yearly boosters is contradictory. That is the kind of obvious BS that raises doubts.

[Den60]

Not true. It’s becoming clear that the mRNA vaccine has broader protective coverage for variants and re-infection than natural immunity. Think of the vaccine as like a “skeleton key” that works on many locks, and natural immunity as a key fitted for just a single door.

https://www.contagionlive.com/view/i...ural-infection

And the reasoning behind needing "booster" shots at 9 months or so is what exactly?

I'm going to go with a few million years of human evolution for $200, Alex.

[as_rocketman]

That study of 9 individuals refutes conventional wisdon.

The more convention wisdom is linked below.

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/lasting-immunity-found-after-recovery-covid-19

I read that, recent examinations of the 1919 flu survivors show that after 100 years they are still immune. That makes sense too. We don't need dozens of booster shots every year for various infectious diseases. The idea that the covid shots are far better than natural immunity yet, they will require yearly boosters is contradictory. That is the kind of obvious BS that raises doubts.

So the science here is a little complicated. Studies on whether mRNA vaccination is broader spectrum or more effective than natural immunity are not yet clear cut, and I believe the reason has to do with variability of natural infection. In other words, not everyone who beat the virus had the same response, whereas most of those vaccinated perform more consistently.

We see this in use of the vaccines as therapy for "long COVID." So there can be some benefit to vaccination after exposure -- but probably only for those with a marginal or defective response to the real virus. The theory is that a repeated but safe exposure can build an effective immune response if it didn't take the first time.

We are finding that those with prior exposure are resistant to reinfection at a rate comparable to our best vaccination on the whole. Don't know if we have an answer to which is quantitatively the best, but you should assume 90-95% plus protectivity. The wiggle room lies in those who had a particularly weak initial response, either because that's all they needed or that's all they could produce.

So... it's hard to put a definite answer on it. In my opinion the risks of vaccination are minimal, particularly if you've already shown a robust response to the full virus, thus it would be cheap insurance. If you don't share that opinion, then vaccination after infection is a hard sell, given the data we have in hand today.