With HIPPA laws how can they prove you've been vaccinated?

[DaveInOroValley]

I know personally if anyone other than my doctor asks me a health question I would definitely tell them "Thats absolutely none of your business, and it violates HIPPA law"

[Lebaneseblonde]

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[SAN compnerd]

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[Citadelgrad87]

I know personally if anyone other than my doctor asks me a health question I would definitely tell them "Thats absolutely none of your business, and it violates HIPPA law"

You're wrong about HIPAA. It does not violate HIPAA to ask you, or even your doctor, any number of questions that ask for sensitive and private information.

HIPAA prohibits someone who HAS such information from disclosing it. It's the opposite of what you think it is.

[alpha_romeo_XV]

I see 3 scenarios not 1.
1. You answer voluntarily
2. You required to prove it somehow other than your verbal reply
3. Healthcare provider discloses your status without your consent.

[Nor Cal Scot]

You're wrong about HIPAA. It does not violate HIPAA to ask you, or even your doctor, any number of questions that ask for sensitive and private information.

HIPAA prohibits someone who HAS such information from disclosing it. It's the opposite of what you think it is.

[DaveInOroValley]

I'll do that, thanks for the clarification.

[Citadelgrad87]

Not exactly. As the person the information pertains to, you can consent to disclosure. I get medical records for people claiming injury all the time, because they filed a lawsuit alleging injury, so they have to consent to me looking at their medical records.

I would just say "it's private information, and I won't release it."

[Fastattack]

Why isn't it racist? Just throwing that out there. No reason.

[hermosabeach]

So there is zero requirement/ zero law to keep the vaccine card.


Some places ask for info but don’t require info to give the shots

Undocumented people get the shots
No health care
No social security number.

A US Citizen with health insurance-
Did not have to provide a ss#
Did not have to provide insurance info
Did not have to show a government issued ID
Did not have to give their real date of birth.


So we have a poor database of who was vaccinated.

[MFortie]

I see 3 scenarios not 1.
1. You answer voluntarily
2. You required to prove it somehow other than your verbal reply
3. Healthcare provider discloses your status without your consent.

From what I read, #3 would be a violation of the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPPA).

[CartridgeCalls]

Why isn't it racist? Just throwing that out there. No reason.

Because Bacon.

[RickD427]

I know personally if anyone other than my doctor asks me a health question I would definitely tell them "Thats absolutely none of your business, and it violates HIPPA law"

There's no violation of HIPAA if someone other than your doctor asks you a health question.

It may, or may not be, a question about which they have business. In the current regulatory environment, I can see where such a question may be properly asked, if the asker has a need to comply with a regulatory mandate.

HIPAA does not provide any confidentiality to your medical records. It only prevents covered entities from releasing your medical records (and it imposes some substantial penalties on covered folks who do improperly disclose). But there is nothing in the HIPAA that imposes a penalty on a non-covered entity from disclosing your medical records.

Although consent of the patient is the primary method by which folks can access medical records, it's not the only method. There are several methods by which law enforcement can access your records, either by satisfying specific requirements in the HIPAA, or through subpoena/search warrant avenues.

L.A. County LE agencies got a pretty thorough run-down on HIPAA processes following the Metrolink Train Derailment in 2005. In that case, hospitals treating patients attempted to withhold patient data from on scene investigators. The after-action process revealed a lot of HIPAA knowledge shortfalls on the part of both LEOs and the Hospital ER staffs.

[Dan_Eastvale]

If it will be based on the honor system, I would gladly say I had the vax even though I hadn't.

[anthonyca]

We have hundreds of commercial accounts in the bay area, hospitals, biotechnology, tech, financial and all kinds of other businesses. I have friends at many competitors, building engineers, elevator companies, electricians etc. We have to do background checks all the time and have access to sites when most employees don't, such as all through covid, we never shut down.

Nobody I have talked to has yet seen anything formal asking us if we are vaccinated. We have yet to see any customer demand we be vaccinated. We have had to show proof of a negative test to gain access. Many customers in the health care industry offered us vaccinations as essential employees way back before anyone could get them, about 60% of the techs took the option, the rest said no. Some who were vaccinated now wish they waited or said no.

We have had employees of companies ask us but mostly on a normal conversational level. I have heard of employees making un company sanctioned lists of names and pressuring others to get vaccinated. These are almost all women and they were usually the ones pushing work from home or they are the type that is always playing hall monitor.

Has anyone else seen anything formal?