US has 6% of worlds COVID deaths

[71MUSTY]

But only 4.25% of the worlds population.

And the best healthcare system in the world.

Sure glad they are not overcounting COVID deaths in this country.

[therealnickb]

Fortunately, we cured a lot of other diseases battling covid.

[shovelon]

Fortunately, we cured a lot of other diseases battling covid.

I figure we came out ahead then.

[Buymoreguns]

We are over counting and the rest of the world is under counting.

[RobinGoodfellow]

Peddle it Somewhere Else

But only 4.25% of the worlds population.

And the best healthcare system in the world.

Sure glad they are not overcounting COVID deaths in this country.

[duenor]

And the best healthcare system in the world.

Oh wait, you seriously believe that.

Best health care for who? Everybody in nation? Certainly not those making too much for medicare and too little for quality insurance.

There's been a number of threads on this very forum by people who have been buying "insurance" from those "Christian Co-Ops" that clearly state in their fine print that they are not insurance. That should give you an idea as to the veracity of your belief that we have the best healthcare system in the world.

[as_rocketman]

Actually in some ways our health care is quite good, and that works against us in these statistics.

We probably have the most accurate count, and that doesn't mean inflated numbers here but probably does mean deflated numbers elsewhere.

There are also structural reasons why we would have higher percentages. Notably, we have an older population than many places -- and often this is evidence of quality health care... But beyond that, we have a highly mobile population as well. Recall the early super-spreader events caused by wealthy people traveling and having fun outside their daily circles.

Wealthy country also means lots of elderly in nursing homes instead of propped up in a rocking chair. The elder care fraction of our death toll is huge.

So, yeah, a grim statistic, but plausible. It also has many causes, and many lessons can be found there.

[sonofeugene]

Oh wait, you seriously believe that.

Best health care for who? Everybody in nation? Certainly not those making too much for medicare and too little for quality insurance.

There's been a number of threads on this very forum by people who have been buying "insurance" from those "Christian Co-Ops" that clearly state in their fine print that they are not insurance. That should give you an idea as to the veracity of your belief that we have the best healthcare system in the world.

Medicare is available for everyone onc you reach 65. In fact, no one can get it before 65 and if you miss signing up for it, you pay a permanent 10% penalty for every year you don't sign up.

[bigbossman]

Oh wait, you seriously believe that.

Name a better one.

[SPUTTER]

Don't forget, the flu magically disappeared this year.

https://apnews.com/article/flu-has-disappeared-us-pandemic-2145d999319b53d8a32a829a324f398d

[therealnickb]

Actually in some ways our health care is quite good, and that works against us in these statistics.

We probably have the most accurate count, and that doesn't mean inflated numbers here but probably does mean deflated numbers elsewhere.

There are also structural reasons why we would have higher percentages. Notably, we have an older population than many places -- and often this is evidence of quality health care... But beyond that, we have a highly mobile population as well. Recall the early super-spreader events caused by wealthy people traveling and having fun outside their daily circles.

Wealthy country also means lots of elderly in nursing homes instead of propped up in a rocking chair. The elder care fraction of our death toll is huge.

So, yeah, a grim statistic, but plausible. It also has many causes, and many lessons can be found there.

Thanks again for another well reasoned post.

[duenor]

Name a better one.

It goes back to the question of, "best health care for who?"

I have pretty awesome health care, for example. I pay a puny co pay each time I go to the doctor, I'm covered no matter where I go in the world, and there is a hard cap on how much I will ever have to pay out of pocket.

I have two professions. In one, I supervise a number of people of varying ranks and pay grades. Last year, I had 8 employees at the lowest rank, making slightly more than minimum wage. They aren't poor enough for medi-cal, they are too young for medicare, and they can't afford obamacare. One of them was diabetic, and when he got that job he was promptly informed by medi-cal that he would no longer qualify. so he begged his doctor to him him stock his fridge full of insulin and just hoped that he would land a better job or be able to go back to medi-cal before it ran out.

a lot of the casualties from covid19 are among those who are poor. here in los angeles, the bottom barrel communities, the ones that work in meat plants and factories and farms, got trashed - cudahay, vernon, san bernandino, etc.

so to answer your question, I can only say that to me, the totality of a nation's health care system ought to be at least in large part judged by its ability to provide a basic modicum of care for all of its citizens.

[bigbossman]

......so to answer your question, I can only say that to me, the totality of a nation's health care system ought to be at least in large part judged by its ability to provide a basic modicum of care for all of its citizens.

You didn't answer the question. You dissembled.

[not-fishing]

Fat People die from Covid19.
More Fat People more deaths.
Just an Inconvenient Truth for those Plus Size people especially the women

[Hammertime]

You didn't answer the question. You dissembled.