Pfizer CEO said third dose is needed and yearly vaccinated needed like flu shot

[Tere_Hanges]

This isnt even news to anyone that knows how vaccines work. Of course boosters will be required. This is not shocking news in any way shape or form.

This thread is big fat nothingburger. Probably the stupidest thread so far about COVID vaccines. But Im sure somebody is saying right now, "hold my tin foil hat".

[ronlglock]

This isnt even news to anyone that knows how vaccines work. Of course boosters will be required. This is not shocking news in any way shape or form.

This thread is big fat nothingburger.

Proving yet again that COVID is just another strain of the flu.

[Tere_Hanges]

Proving yet again that COVID is just another strain of the flu.

There are similarities in how the virus affects our society. But COVID is in an entirely different type of virus than the flu. They are totally different families. If anything COVID is actually more like Ebola than the Flu.

[Cup of Cheese]

A one-time polio booster is available to adults who frequently travel overseas or may be at an increased risk. I hope someone isn't giving you yearly polios boosters.

[stix213]

I should probably make another observation about the Covid-19 thing.

If one thinks that the Chinese are finished with the coronavirus as a biological warfare agent? Well, that's sweet and I hope you are right, but my hopes aren't very high.

Correct. You don't go through the largest bioagent field test in history and call it quits.

[OleCuss]

True but you also don’t need to take a polio booster every year. I am assuming it’s because polio does not mutate at the speed of influenza or coronavirus.

If you need to get a covid shot every year, I don’t see how you can achieve herd immunity. There is no herd immunity for the flu or the common cold. Why do people think we can achieve that with covid?


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With Polio we've effectively reached herd immunity in the USA. If we hadn't, we might be getting boosters every now and again. The problem with Polio is that we have people coming here from elsewhere and most of the reason we have to be immunized is to protect us from visitors and immigrants.

We don't have a vaccine for the common cold. Unfortunate. Well, OK, it is actually possible that the Covid-19 vaccine will give us limited protection from the four coronavirus strains which cause the common cold but it won't do anything against the other viruses which cause the common cold.

The Flu vaccine? There are too many strains and the predictions as to exactly what is going to hit us the next year are never all that great. Asia is our biggest problem when it comes to the flu. Also, I think influenza is now fairly optimized to evade vaccines so that the flu vaccine mostly reduces the intensity of the illness. There are some oddities about the flu shot and I am not convinced that pushing the vaccine for younger folk is the right thing to do.

Can we achieve herd immunity for Covid-19? Right now it looks like we can, sorta. Get almost everyone in the USA fully vaccinated we'll have herd immunity.

The problem is that a lot of folk aren't going to get the vaccine which means that we'll likely just be decreasing the Covid-19 problem from a full-throated roar do a dull roar. Then the anti-vaxxers will claim the vaccine is not effective at eliminating the virus and ignore the possibility that they are the reason.

Immigration will also be a problem. If you are importing people with Covid-19 you are going to have at least a limited issue here in the USA. Our current administration is doing nothing effective to even limit the importation of Covid-19 by illegal aliens. The USA public should be outraged by this.


People need to remember smallpox. It was a very nasty disease and it was effectively wiped out worldwide by vaccination.

A related fun fact? I'm one of only a small portion of the USA who has had the "smallpox" vaccination twice. That's because we do not have confidence that the smallpox vaccine gives long-lived immunity. So I had the vaccination done as a child and then again before deployment to Afghanistan. There is still some smallpox virus in a few labs and there was concern it could be used as a bioweapon against us in Afghanistan and/or Iraq so even though I'd been vaccinated in the past, I got it again.

We used to think that childhood immunization with MMR was lifetime. But we found that the immunity dropped too low in some people so it is now recommended that everyone get another MMR as an adult. Some get titers instead of a repeat and don't have to get the shot again.

Our immune system reacts differently to different pathogens and to the vaccines directed at those pathogens. So you get different vaccination schedules for different vaccines.

[BajaJames83]

It will be rolled into the flu shot 2 in 1

[Tere_Hanges]

It will be rolled into the flu shot 2 in 1

Yup, thats what Moderna is working on. Novovax is also working on a similar flu/COVID vaccine.

[stonefly-2]

It's a vaccine. There is absolutely no vaccine on Earth which is 100% effective and that's why they work on trying to get good herd immunity.

Polio vaccine is not 100% effective either. It's just that we've got pretty good herd immunity on that one so most of us don't know anyone with a new case of polio.

I don't know where the idea came from that a vaccine is 100% effective at preventing infections. That is not what determines whether something is a vaccine.

I know, I know. Some think that a vaccine is a one-shot deal. But since you cited Polio I'd note that you actually get a series of Polio vaccinations, not just one.

The objection to it being called a vaccine when it's not is not out of concern for a lesser level of effectiveness.

[skilletboy]

Well, CEOs rarely say everyone needs less of their product.

Right! How convenient for him, his company, and their shareholders, as well as the power hungry psychopaths currently in charge of the levers of power in our nation.

[SactoDoug]

I keep getting the feeling like we are at the beginning of a zombie apocalypse movie. There is a highly contagious disease that is about to mutate and an experimental vaccine being given to the entire population.

[spectralhunter]

We don't have a vaccine for the common cold. Unfortunate. Well, OK, it is actually possible that the Covid-19 vaccine will give us limited protection from the four coronavirus strains which cause the common cold but it won't do anything against the other viruses which cause the common cold.

The Flu vaccine? There are too many strains and the predictions as to exactly what is going to hit us the next year are never all that great. Asia is our biggest problem when it comes to the flu. Also, I think influenza is now fairly optimized to evade vaccines so that the flu vaccine mostly reduces the intensity of the illness. There are some oddities about the flu shot and I am not convinced that pushing the vaccine for younger folk is the right thing to do.

Can we achieve herd immunity for Covid-19? Right now it looks like we can, sorta. Get almost everyone in the USA fully vaccinated we'll have herd immunity.

[Tere_Hanges]

I keep getting the feeling like we are at the beginning of a zombie apocalypse movie. There is a highly contagious disease that is about to mutate and an experimental vaccine being given to the entire population.

The Zombie apocalypse began years ago when millions of libtards turned off their brains and started believing everything that is fed to them by the Dems and the drive by media. Woke liberalism is a highly contagious disease. A mental disease affecting those with no critical thinking ability aka, a brain.

[Wherryj]

Well, CEOs rarely say everyone needs less of their product.

This just in! Porsche suggests that customers purchase their vehicles yearly to assure the newest technology and innovations.

[stonefly-2]

Covid is a marker that everyone has in their body. The test is negative or positive depending on how they check it. The reports of cases and deaths is raised or lowered depending on what they want you to do.

Who knows what the "vaccine" is. One thing not in dispute is it changes your DNA so you are not who you used to be. Probably to make you more compliant/less likely to question authority.

Would you give up your guns to continue getting that biannual jab that keeps you alive?