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  • #46
    Den60
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Jul 2016
    • 2695

    Originally posted by duenor
    Same five or six guys clapping each other on the back about the same willful misunderstandings. The events of the past year and the well-documented deaths of numerous americans have made not a dint in the ironclad ignorances of the past year, it seems.
    If COVID was all that bad we wouldn't be importing it from South America.


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    • #47
      LBDamned
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Feb 2011
      • 19040

      Originally posted by Den60
      If COVID was all that bad we wouldn't be importing it from South America.
      Also, all the people he's complaining about- would be dead.
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      • #48
        Creeping Incrementalism
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2005
        • 1721

        Originally posted by duenor
        Same five or six guys clapping each other on the back about the same willful misunderstandings. The events of the past year and the well-documented deaths of numerous americans have made not a dint in the ironclad ignorances of the past year, it seems.
        Same few guys making condescending pro-nanny-state comments trying to tell everyone they can't breathe freely in public. Everything I read and every study I saw about the spread of influenza (with the virus particles being the same size as this coronavirus) in the past decades and even century (as the idea first started after the 1918 flu) written before 2020, shows that masks don't help.

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        • #49
          SanDiego619
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jan 2013
          • 11941

          Originally posted by Creeping Incrementalism
          Same few guys making condescending pro-nanny-state comments trying to tell everyone they can't breathe freely in public. Everything I read and every study I saw about the spread of influenza (with the virus particles being the same size as this coronavirus) in the past decades and even century (as the idea first started after the 1918 flu) written before 2020, shows that masks don't help.
          Masks are stupid
          Where the people fear the government you have tyranny. Where the government fears the people you have liberty.

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          • #50
            bigbossman
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Dec 2012
            • 11020

            Originally posted by SanDiego619
            Masks are stupid
            Please stop beating around the bush....... tell us how you really feel.
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            • #51
              duenor
              Vendor/Retailer
              • Mar 2007
              • 4617

              Originally posted by Creeping Incrementalism
              Same few guys making condescending pro-nanny-state comments trying to tell everyone they can't breathe freely in public. Everything I read and every study I saw about the spread of influenza (with the virus particles being the same size as this coronavirus) in the past decades and even century (as the idea first started after the 1918 flu) written before 2020, shows that masks don't help.
              If only the whole global medical establishment were as well read as you are. They'd save a fortune in masks.
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              • #52
                Scota4570
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2006
                • 1719

                "(as the idea first started after the 1918 flu) written before 2020, shows that masks don't help."

                That is an inconvenient truth for the covid hysterics. IN the 1918 outbreak they found that no thickness of cloth masks worked. It was well known until the Fauci quislings decided to censor the facts.
                Last edited by Scota4570; 04-04-2021, 10:20 PM.

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                • #53
                  dreyna14
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 1594

                  I have read many studies and articles about masks and every single one of them has either been some random study with low numbers showing little or no benefit or some experimental setup showing some association with no further test to verify. For example, they test for the presence of particles with the assumption that more particles = more viruses but neglect to test directly for the viruses.

                  The only context I can see masks working is with a sneeze or a cough. With these cases, material is in large enough sizes that their inertia carries them into the material to be caught and held. Smaller particle sizes just go around and exit through the numerous gaps in the sides. Combine that with the constant touching, adjusting, and reuse of these things and their effectiveness is basically no better than nothing at all.

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                  • #54
                    nedro
                    Veteran Member
                    • Nov 2014
                    • 4130

                    Originally posted by bigbossman
                    Just for the sake of argument..... let's say they do, and at the end of the day the used mask is laden with the virus spores. Wouldn't the used masks then be highly dangerous hazardous waste?

                    I ask in all earnest, because used dirty masks are literally littering the ground everywhere. I'm doing work at a medical center in Washington state, and have been here since last Tuesday. We are all required to wear the stupid thing, and very day when I walk into and out of the parking lot I see discarded used paper masks everywhere - on the ground, in the bushes, on the bus benches....... everywhere. You would think that a facility that has mask Nazi's at every turn sternly chastising every person with a perceived infraction would be concerned about uncontrolled disease vectors in and around their parking lot. Apparently, they are not.

                    It's a total joke.
                    Shut up about the used masks!
                    Where do you think I get mine from?
                    Someone's always trying to ruin a good thing.

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                    • #55
                      SanDiego619
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 11941

                      Originally posted by nedro
                      Shut up about the used masks!
                      Where do you think I get mine from?
                      Someone's always trying to ruin a good thing.
                      At the beginning of this BS hoax when sheep bought all the masks from everywhere, people were encouraged to "steam" their used masks to sterilize them. What a joke.
                      Where the people fear the government you have tyranny. Where the government fears the people you have liberty.

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                      • #56
                        Scota4570
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2006
                        • 1719

                        "The only context I can see masks working is with a sneeze or a cough."

                        Masks are working great. They are being used to condition people do an unreasonable action.

                        I see lot of people alone, outdoors or in their car wearing a mask. They apparently believe coivd is an invisible vapor in the air that is staking them. They believe that masks stop the invisible vapors from infecting them. They have been terrified and are ignorant. That makes them easily manipulated by propaganda. They are being conditioned to be obedient to the overlords.

                        Those who object are also being identified. They will be dealt with if the progressive woke gain absolute power.

                        Most people want to be micromanaged by a parent figure. Half the people have an IQ under 100. 1/6 of the of the people have an IQ under 85.


                        I am not disparaging the honest working people with American values here. Most people are working from paycheck to paycheck struggling to make ends meet. I respect those people. Most do not have the time or general interest in questioning this stuff.

                        Many others are waiting for the next set of rules from big brother to tell them what to do. You know the type?, the rules worshipers. Once they have their marching orders they are secure. That is how clever revolutionaries take power. They exploit the useful idiots to do their bidding.

                        More and more it is government lazy workers and union members embracing totalitarianism. They tend to have dumbed down college degrees that qualify them to hold government jobs. Those degrees are things like ethnic and women's' studies. Those individuals are usually not smart enough to get a real degree in a real field of study. The professors ethnic and women's studies are idiots too, who spew Marxist propaganda. In college circles Marx is cool. So the brain washed kids come out of college and take their place in the regulatory state and make the rules for the rest of us. So, we get masks mandates.



                        I digress, masks?......masks bad.
                        Last edited by Scota4570; 04-05-2021, 11:13 AM.

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                        • #57
                          bigbossman
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Dec 2012
                          • 11020

                          Originally posted by nedro
                          Shut up about the used masks!
                          Where do you think I get mine from?
                          Someone's always trying to ruin a good thing.
                          LOL.

                          I just finished a trip for work in the state of WA. Mask-Nazis hold strong sway up there. While there, I had to do some laundry at the hotel. What did I find in the washing machine? Soggy masks, left behind by someone that no doubt was having a panic attack over their missing mask.
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                          • #58
                            numpty
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Jul 2012
                            • 2133

                            Originally posted by SAN compnerd
                            Particle filtration =/= preventing viral spread.


                            This kind of garbage science is as bad as the bogus HCQ studies that were subsequently retracted. What is it that statisticians say about causation/correlation?

                            Edit: Does anyone think this is how they discovered that N95 masks prevented silicosis from breathing fine dust from rocks? Or did they actually do some research on people wearing vs not wearing the mask to determine if they prevented or reduced silicosis?
                            They had to disqualify HCQ and Imervectin etc. in order to legally be allowed the EUA status of the vaccines. It's states that no other options can be available in order for the EUA. "Vaccine" companies needed to make some money and our overlords needed to establish some more power.
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                            • #59
                              Creeping Incrementalism
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2005
                              • 1721

                              Originally posted by duenor
                              If only the whole global medical establishment were as well read as you are. They'd save a fortune in masks.
                              You missed my point. I'm talking about the public at large. And what I'm "well read" on, from before 2020, IS the global medical establishment. Keep in mind influenza and coronavirus viruses are both about the same size. This is just one good blurb, summarizing 10 studies over 72 years on influenza from https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26...4_article#tnF2

                              And now post-2020 COVID-19 specific CDC study show at best 2% per 20 day-period from masks. That comes to like a 10% difference over 3 months at best. Compare that to the winter surge when virus deaths increased 200% over 3 months. Masks just don't make any significant difference, except give people a false sense of security.

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                              • #60
                                therealnickb
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                                • Oct 2011
                                • 8918

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