New Johnson & Johnson vaccine

[Tere_Hanges]

I think you can still get the virus with any of the three vaccines. Supposedly it just lessons the severity. Still have to keep your distance and wear those masks!

And this is normal for vaccines. You can still get a virus with other vaccines like the flu for instance. But the bottom line is vaccines give you better protection than no vaccine. The purpose of the vaccine is to prepare your immune system for attack. Its kind of like being armed or unarmed should you be attacked walking down the street. Being armed might not prevent the attack but at least you have something to defend yourself with.

[u04601]

Is a one shot J&J vaccine as effective as one shot of the Phfizer of Mordena vaccine?

[UCT]

We don't know if JNJ vaccine is as effective as the mRNA vaccines because the JNJ was tested at a time when there were more variants of the virus. It may be that it is more effective against some variants than the mRNA vaccines.

[castgold]

A little less effective but what does that mean?
They said the J&J reduces or eliminates moderate to severe symptoms in most cases.
OK, that sounds good but it also sounds like you can still get the virus with the J&J but it won't be as bad.
So is it a vaccine or a pre- treatment / remedy?

Jannsen reported that more symptoms were likely in the test group, but it kept 100% out of the hospital with severe disease/death. And you only need a single dose. It still needs to be refrigerated, but not at -80 like Pfizer and Moderna.

[LBDamned]

i was vaccinated yesterday no line no wait at Pierce college. Took longer to wait in lot 15 minutes after shot then to sign in and get shot.

Wait, you mean people aren't waiting in line for hours to get this?

I'm shocked

Media and government better ramp up their efforts

[LBDamned]

Emergency approval granted last week and my wife's school district is having a vaxx clinic tomorrow offering it. Kinda surprised how fast that happened.

Because not enough want it.

They'll eventually use money as a motivator... either by pay or penalty - either way, our money of course.

[HibikiR]

So take the vaccine and you have a 100% chance of spike protein risk, or don't take the vaccine you have a good chance of not having spike protein.

That makes no sense. How does the virus have less of a chance compared to a lab knock-off?

[nothing4u]

Is anyone working on a non mRNA vaccine?

[freespool]

Is anyone working on a non mRNA vaccine?

A few. The J&J that just got approved isn't mRNA (but it is vectored DNA). Here's some info I just found on protein subunit vaccines, which are likely to be a little weaker.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/rmv.2183

[Tere_Hanges]

Is anyone working on a non mRNA vaccine?

Oxford-AstraZeneca. Which is one the vaccines the UK is using (they are also using Pfizer and Moderna).
J&J
Novovax

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/health-55274833

Israel has vaccinated their entire population with the Pfizer vacc.

[Sousuke]

I think you can still get the virus with any of the three vaccines. Supposedly it just lessons the severity. Still have to keep your distance and wear those masks!

There is real world data coming out of Israel now. The report still needs peer review but early indications are that the Pfizer vaccine is 89% effective at preventing transmission.

https://www.ft.com/content/2626ec05-5bc5-4121-afc4-be62c29c4894

I'm thinking that the majority of mitigation measures will fall away by July. They might come back Nov. - January temporarily if there is a mini-surge, but we are nearing the end of the tunnel.

[JustJoshinYa]

I'm not trying to to thread jack but I saw something questioning "What way the first covid vaccines will affect blood transfusion recipients (who may not want any of these vaccines or have medical reasons not to get them) from people who have gotten the vaccines and then donated blood?"
Isn't the blood still somehow all pooled together or did we learn something from the mistakes during the AIDS epidemic blood transfusion mistakes?

I can't see blood banks turning away all people who have gotten the vaccine.

I'm not a medical expert but I'm sure someone here will know how this new DNA and the those earlier mRNA vaccines will affect people who get blood transfusions.
Any thoughts from medical experts?

I'm not trying to have anyone put on a tinfoil hat but I think non-experts would be curious because you never know when you might need a blood transfusion due to an accident.

It would be similar to anyone donating blood who has gotten the actual virus. Same thing there is a transfer of blood that will contain some white blood cells reacted to cv19. Your body processes the vaccine to create an immune response. There wouldnt be any "vaccine" in your blood just the end product of your immune response to the vaccine same as anyone who has contracted cv19. Unless you went to donate blood within 24 hours of vaccination then there may actually still be traces of the mRNA vaccine in the blood supply but prescreening would prevent them from donating if they dont lie.