New Johnson & Johnson vaccine

[Rakso]

Dibs on your guns, ammo and tools.


Discussion on the J&J on the talk radio this morning.
A little less effective but what does that mean?
They said the J&J reduces or eliminates moderate to severe symptoms in most cases.
OK, that sounds good but it also sounds like you can still get the virus with the J&J but it won't be as bad.
So is it a vaccine or a pre- treatment / remedy?

It's a flu shot.

[elSquid]

So is it a vaccine or a pre- treatment / remedy?

[XDJYo]

Johnson & Johnson is the no-more tears vaccine.

[DGoodale]

I found out yesterday that the J&J vax is considered "live virus" (not sure that it really is?) but is not for those with auto-immune disorders, RA peeps taking auto-immune suppressant drugs i.e. Xeljans as an example.

[Epaphroditus]

The adenovirus injects its nucleic acid payload into a cell. The DNA is transcribed into RNA which codes for the covid spike proteins.

Ones immune system then reacts creating antigens to the spike proteins.

Blood donors won't have any residual adenovirus, nucleic acid payload or RNA but may contain antigens to the spike proteins.

Yes, no RNA in J&J (my mistake) but you will get RNA and the same spike proteins which are know to cause brain damage.

[SanDiego619]

The adenovirus injects its nucleic acid payload into a cell. The DNA is transcribed into RNA which codes for the covid spike proteins.

Ones immune system then reacts creating antigens to the spike proteins.

Blood donors won't have any residual adenovirus, nucleic acid payload or RNA but may contain antigens to the spike proteins.

Yes, no RNA in J&J (my mistake) but you will get RNA and the same spike proteins which are know to cause brain damage.

I don't want a vaccine that causes brain damage.

[joefrank64k]

[Marauder2003]

Spikes and the brain.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/could-spike-protein-in-moderna-pfizer-vaccines-cause-blood-clots-brain-inflammation-and-heart-attacks

https://www.templehealth.org/about/news/sars-cov-2-spike-proteins-disrupt-the-blood-brain-barrier-potentially-raising-risk-of-neurological-damage-in-covid-19-patients

[SanDiego619]

Spikes and the brain.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/could-spike-protein-in-moderna-pfizer-vaccines-cause-blood-clots-brain-inflammation-and-heart-attacks

https://www.templehealth.org/about/n...id-19-patients

Thank you, interesting and scary.

It sounds like the vaccine or the virus can cause the same thing right?

So take the vaccine and you have a 100% chance of spike protein risk, or don't take the vaccine you have a good chance of not having spike protein.

[SanDiego619]

If you need a booster just get covid again, it is the natural booster from mother nature! (Or at least from a lab in wuhan...)

[freespool]

Thank you, interesting and scary.

It sounds like the vaccine or the virus can cause the same thing right?

So take the vaccine and you have a 100% chance of spike protein risk, or don't take the vaccine you have a good chance of not having spike protein.

Interesting angle but not much to hang a hat on so far. Admittedly the viral infection is much better studied at the systemic level than the vaccination. Hard to compare dose levels but likely that mRNA injection produces much less and shorter-lived spike, and more localized, than viral infection. The infection produces noticeable neurologic effects in some proportion of people - dizziness, taste/smell derangement, delirium, muscle ache and fatigue - as well as reported cardiac and GI symptoms, that in many cases of severe disease - an outcome which is 100% absent so far in study vaccinees - are somewhat long-lasting. Has any of that been seen in vaccinees?

No study vaccinee has gotten severe Covid, or died. Given the clear contrast in clinical/symptomatic experience between those who get the virus and those who get the vaccine, isn't it clear which way to go if the presumption is that for most people it will eventually be one or the other?

[SAN compnerd]

Emergency approval granted last week and my wife's school district is having a vaxx clinic tomorrow offering it. Kinda surprised how fast that happened.

[wpage]

J & J or sputnick you say?

No way.

[Citadelgrad87]

The J&J vaccine does NOT use mRNA technology. It is also less effective. But it doesnt need to be kept frozen. So it can be distributed at pharmacies and other locations without freezers or concern of temperature degradation.

THis and the single dose are the key to mass distribution.

[joepamjohn]

Dibs on your guns, ammo and tools.


Discussion on the J&J on the talk radio this morning.
A little less effective but what does that mean?
They said the J&J reduces or eliminates moderate to severe symptoms in most cases.
OK, that sounds good but it also sounds like you can still get the virus with the J&J but it won't be as bad.
So is it a vaccine or a pre- treatment / remedy?

I think you can still get the virus with any of the three vaccines. Supposedly it just lessons the severity. Still have to keep your distance and wear those masks!