Why Some Who Are Vaccinated Still Get Coronavirus

[sigstroker]

Yeah, I am thinking most missed this part.

You can still contact and spread the virus, you just won't die from it, hopefully. I have seen this written a few times this week. Is that how the flu vaccine works?

Not necessarily. The pharma companies don't know. You might not be able to build enough of a viral load to be contagious.

[sigstroker]

Mr Endless # 30, I call BS on your posting ! It doth appear you were not there in the Army building at Husterhoh Kasern HHQ 59th Ordnance Group in the fall of 1966 when I and a few hundred others got the FLU shot like it or not. As for the others I can not speak. BUT FOR ME MYSELF AND I all three of us got the flu two days later. As for flu shots now in the 2020's timeframe I can not speak for getting it again as I do NOT ever get a flu shot since 1966. Helpeth thyself to the vaccine if you please. I am with San !

Psalm 1

Same here on flu shots. Every time I got one, I got the flu. I prefer to catch the flu the old fashioned way, from a fast food worker sneezing on my Big Mac.

[Sousuke]

I would say as of now the data coming out regarding the South African variant is that herd immunity via vaccines alone probably isn't possible anymore and the vaccines are now more about avoiding hospital stays and deaths.

Also as I was scanning through the posts I think someone mentioned HCQ. i think we are well beyond that now aren't we? The most positive trial in 2021 has been EXO-CD24 and Allocetra.

https://theprint.in/health/israeli-hospital-claims-it-has-developed-a-covid-cure-drug-trial-shows-96-positive-result/599512/

[waveslayer]

We have had the Flu Vaccine for what, 70 years or so? We still have the flu! Not sure why so many think the vaccine will be end of the Covid War...

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[Sousuke]

We have had the Flu Vaccine for what, 70 years or so? We still have the flu! Not sure why so many think the vaccine will be end of the Covid War...

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Its about the novel nature of the virus. In principle once everyone becomes exposed either naturally or artificially then the rate of medical treatment required should drop. IE. if you had covid or a vaccine, and catch a new variant the illness should be milder than if you have never been exposed. There is also a good chance that at some point a dominant variant will emerge with a much lower mortality rate.

[waveslayer]

Its about the novel nature of the virus. In principle once everyone becomes exposed either naturally or artificially then the rate of medical treatment required should drop. There is also a good chance that at some point a dominant variant will emerge with a much lower mortality rate.

Agreed and we are seeing that now with Covid. More contagious this mutation, but deaths are down. I had one patient get Covid twice, first big outbreak and over Christmas. Her poor body couldn't recover and she expired.

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[TrappedinCalifornia]

Its about the novel nature of the virus. In principle once everyone becomes exposed either naturally or artificially then the rate of medical treatment required should drop. IE. if you had covid or a vaccine, and catch a new variant the illness should be milder than if you have never been exposed. There is also a good chance that at some point a dominant variant will emerge with a much lower mortality rate.

Agreed and we are seeing that now with Covid. More contagious this mutation, but deaths are down. I had one patient get Covid twice, first big outbreak and over Christmas. Her poor body couldn't recover and she expired.

I won't say that the current vaccines were 'premature,' but such variation/mutation is one of the reasons vaccines historically tend to take longer to deploy; it's part of the unknown, "long term" effects which was 'skipped' in the development of these vaccines. Vaccines are often 'tweaked' in development to cover a broader spectrum and that's what the drug companies are currently looking into with the new mutations; i.e., 'tweaking' the existing vaccines to account for how the mutations have created a 'work around' to how the vaccines were initially designed to 'protect.'

The real question is becoming whether a single vaccine can be developed/deployed/taken to cover the contingencies or whether this is going to end up more like the 'flu shots' where there are variants of the vaccines to account for the different flu variants. If the multi vaccine approach becomes a necessity, the question will then be whether an individual will need to take multiple shots or if it will become "this season's best guess" along the lines of how the flu vaccines now work.