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  • #31
    Hammertime
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2011
    • 3495

    Originally posted by Sousuke
    All of this seems to point to a miscalculation not in production but distribution. Originally the CDC was thinking by week 3 they would start to burn through production at about a 1:1 ratio. I think we are entering week 3 now aren't we?

    If you look at CDC guidelines (which are clearly optimistic at this point) they would ramp up to deliver 10 million doses a week by week 3. Current conditions are probably about ~ 1 million? They note that once phase 2 allows mass distribution capacity doubles.

    If we assume that maybe hospitals can ramp up to 2 million by January, it would take until next winter to hit phase 2. If we skip to phase 2 now and assume mass distribution can add an additional 2 million to the system at least by next fall they might get 200 million doses out

    Otherwise, by summer it appears that the current system will be lucky to get to 50m doses.
    You keep posting the same moronic picture, do you think Biden will be better at this?

    How have state governors, senators etc made this better?

    Would you prefer Trump actually turn into a dictator and force people to wear masks/quarantine the healthy and somehow save the economy?

    There really should be an IQ test to own guns. Super disappointed in some of you libs on here. Disappointed but not shocked.

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    • #32
      Den60
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • Jul 2016
      • 2695

      Originally posted by Hammertime
      You keep posting the same moronic picture, do you think Biden will be better at this?

      How have state governors, senators etc made this better?

      Would you prefer Trump actually turn into a dictator and force people to wear masks/quarantine the healthy and somehow save the economy?

      There really should be an IQ test to own guns. Super disappointed in some of you libs on here. Disappointed but not shocked.
      Trump being a dictator = BAD.

      Biden, Newsom, Cuomo et. al. being a dictator = GOOD.


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      • #33
        SAN compnerd
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        CGN Contributor
        • May 2009
        • 4725

        Originally posted by bangel
        Just saw this in the news this morning ^ Same thing is happening everywhere - a large percentage of frontline healthcare workers, first responders, etc. are not taking it.
        Conversely in Florida where Governor Desantis let the hospitals take charge of distribution on a first come, first served bases they are seeing massive demand and people waiting in line for hours.

        Of course being a Republican led state means the media is reporting this as a failure, while the central planners failures in NY and California are mostly ignored.
        "I think we have more machinery of government than is necessary, too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious." - Thomas Jefferson, 1824

        Originally posted by SAN compnerd
        When the middle east descends into complete chaos in 2-3 years due in part to the actions of this administration I'll necro post about how clueless I was.

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        • #34
          SAN compnerd
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          CGN Contributor
          • May 2009
          • 4725

          Originally posted by duenor
          <snip>


          There's a difference between first responders who already have a good routine, good equipment, turning it down because they already know how to avoid getting sick, and then people who don't have those turning it down. It's also possible there are frontline workers who are turning it down so someone who needs it more can get it. <snip>
          Is that you flip flopper Fauci??? For weeks you've been going on about how much at risk the frontline workers are for this virus, now because the central planners are failing miserably in their efforts to direct demand because that's impossible, you backtrack to this drivel? Healthcare workers now know how to protect themselves from the super dangerous virus that leaves long term brain/lung/kidney/liver damage so they don't need the shot and that's fine?
          "I think we have more machinery of government than is necessary, too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious." - Thomas Jefferson, 1824

          Originally posted by SAN compnerd
          When the middle east descends into complete chaos in 2-3 years due in part to the actions of this administration I'll necro post about how clueless I was.

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          • #35
            SAN compnerd
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            CGN Contributor
            • May 2009
            • 4725

            Originally posted by duenor
            Bruce isn't wrong about the pretty much non-existent PR messaging regarding the vaccine, Den. Pence publicly got the shot, and Fauci too, which are good, but this is a major thing that needs all of our cooperation to pull off successfully.
            You are forgetting hypocrite Kamalalala, she got the shot too, but only after questioning it's safety in the debates before tens of millions of liberal leftists. Is it any surprise that the most heavily liberal areas are not accepting of the vacc considering the lefts work to disparage it?

            Newsom question the vaccs safety, even called for an independent approval board.

            Cuomo questioned the safety, called for an independent approval board.

            Government has been working on a PR campaign, but it's been largely to question the safety and effectiveness of the vaccine, not to encourage it's acceptance.

            It's always odd to me how you ignore the facts that don't agree with your false narratives.
            Last edited by SAN compnerd; 01-05-2021, 11:51 AM.
            "I think we have more machinery of government than is necessary, too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious." - Thomas Jefferson, 1824

            Originally posted by SAN compnerd
            When the middle east descends into complete chaos in 2-3 years due in part to the actions of this administration I'll necro post about how clueless I was.

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            • #36
              Sousuke
              Veteran Member
              • Mar 2012
              • 3788

              Originally posted by Hammertime
              You keep posting the same moronic picture, do you think Biden will be better at this?

              How have state governors, senators etc made this better?

              Would you prefer Trump actually turn into a dictator and force people to wear masks/quarantine the healthy and somehow save the economy?

              There really should be an IQ test to own guns. Super disappointed in some of you libs on here. Disappointed but not shocked.
              You mean my signature? Its just a commentary on people's reactions especially to conspiracies to the events of 2020. You are reading into things if you think its a commentary on Biden. I will probably take it down in a bit since its 2021. Also not sure who the "lib" you referring to is. Not me, I can assure you.
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              • #37
                Sousuke
                Veteran Member
                • Mar 2012
                • 3788

                Dentists can now give vaccines.

                Everyone on Calguns keeps talking about TDS. I never knew we had so many fish keepers!

                The TDS on my 10gallon tanks 110ppm
                The TDS on my 29 gallon tank is 150ppm (due to substrate)

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                • #38
                  Squatch
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2018
                  • 886

                  Originally posted by Sousuke
                  I also heard 4 out of 5 dentist prefer Trident.

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                  • #39
                    M1NM
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 7966

                    Originally posted by Jongage
                    In our perspective. We have 20y/o's with BS degrees, who keep asking if they are allowed to move a table two feet, and dont know how to light a propane heater.
                    I'm 70 and have a BS degree or is it a degree in BS????

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                    • #40
                      duenor
                      Vendor/Retailer
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 4617

                      Originally posted by SAN compnerd
                      Is that you flip flopper Fauci??? For weeks you've been going on about how much at risk the frontline workers are for this virus, now because the central planners are failing miserably in their efforts to direct demand because that's impossible, you backtrack to this drivel? Healthcare workers now know how to protect themselves from the super dangerous virus that leaves long term brain/lung/kidney/liver damage so they don't need the shot and that's fine?
                      What are you going on about? Come on, stop looking for a fight and try to have a discussion once in a while.

                      Everyone should get the shot, period. I think the frontline workers declining are wrong to do so, but it's their life. However, Bangel's post suggested that because frontline workers are declining, everyone else should too.

                      There's a big difference between frontline workers and regular Americans. They have access to all sorts of equipment and training, so if they decline they still have a very good chance of not getting sick, especially if they aren't in a high risk specialization.
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                      • #41
                        Hammertime
                        Veteran Member
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 3495

                        Meanwhile

                        Employees at 195 Department of Veterans Affairs medical facilities have begun to receive initial doses of the COVID-19 vaccine.

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                        • #42
                          Sousuke
                          Veteran Member
                          • Mar 2012
                          • 3788

                          Looks like large pharmacies like CVS are starting their roll out now. Not sure if thats the case in California yet.
                          Everyone on Calguns keeps talking about TDS. I never knew we had so many fish keepers!

                          The TDS on my 10gallon tanks 110ppm
                          The TDS on my 29 gallon tank is 150ppm (due to substrate)

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