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  • #16
    bagman
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2010
    • 568

    I believe these numbers are being manipulated to fit the story and control the populace.

    Since they have an area with mandatory mask use, why not start reporting less new cases in that area. Media runs with the story and local governments use the "data" to reinforce stronger mask mandates for their kingdom area.

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    • #17
      DJD100
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2018
      • 534

      Originally posted by sd_shooter
      I am indeed!

      I don't have the covid

      Why should the healthy wear masks?
      You can't be serious can you?

      Ok, just in case you are serious, it's because the so called "healthy" may be pre-symptomatic/asymptomatic, and if they are they'e spreading this unprecedentedly contagious virus unknowingly, so by extension they're quite possibly causing someone's death sentence by result. Yeah, you'd hate to have that on your conscious wouldn't you?

      How do you know you don't have it, are you tested everyday like Trump?

      EVERYONE should MASK-UP WHEN IN PUBLIC AND UNABLE TO SOCIALLY DISTANCE, especially INDOORS (unless you're a very young child or have a medical condition that prohibits it), because a decent percentage of people don't show symptoms but are still extremely contagious.

      Here masking-up is required and not doing so creates your first offense at $100, your second offense is $250, and any subsequent offenses are $500 per infraction.

      Businesses serving the public are requiring their employees to mask-up at all times or face fines/closure.

      Nobody is whining about their "freedom" around here (SF Bay Area), and most everyone understands and supports the measures towards the common good.

      It's not rocket science, it's SIMPLE!
      Last edited by DJD100; 08-07-2020, 11:47 PM.

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      • #18
        DJD100
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2018
        • 534

        Originally posted by bagman
        I believe these numbers are being manipulated to fit the story and control the populace.

        Since they have an area with mandatory mask use, why not start reporting less new cases in that area. Media runs with the story and local governments use the "data" to reinforce stronger mask mandates for their kingdom area.
        Paranoid much?

        Get the tin-foil hat back on, and by all means take your meds!

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        • #19
          bagman
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2010
          • 568

          Originally posted by DJD100
          Paranoid much?

          Get the tin-foil hat back on, and by all means take your meds!
          You know, you're right. Every word uttered to the public has been truthful because our democratic overloads have said so.

          When's your next Biden rally?

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          • #20
            toro1
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2013
            • 1497

            Originally posted by JDoe
            So what is the compliance rate?

            How long does it take to have COVID-19 symptoms appear after infection?

            After symptoms appear how long does it typically take for a person to die?
            Good questions although the answers to 2 and 3 are pretty well established by now and have been recited here ad naseum. Perhaps to aid with the overall understanding of what is happening in Kansas, the OP could provide links to the County data for Kansas so we can see how drastic the drop was in the Counties being referenced and check it against the generally accepted timeline.

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            • #21
              duenor
              Vendor/Retailer
              • Mar 2007
              • 4617

              There's a lot of anger about that in Japan right now. The government pushed reopeng way too hard and encouraged people to get back to "normal" way to quickly. Not so different from how CA did a pretty good job and then screwed it up. Protests of course did not help either.
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              • #22
                Paul_R
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                CGN Contributor
                • Jan 2011
                • 2847

                Fear is a social disease

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                • #23
                  therealnickb
                  King- Lifetime
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 8919

                  Originally posted by DJD100
                  You can't be serious can you?

                  Ok, just in case you are serious, it's because the so called "healthy" may be pre-symptomatic/asymptomatic, and if they are they'e spreading this unprecedentedly contagious virus unknowingly, so by extension they're quite possibly causing someone's death sentence by result. Yeah, you'd hate to have that on your conscious wouldn't you?

                  How do you know you don't have it, are you tested everyday like Trump?

                  EVERYONE should MASK-UP WHEN IN PUBLIC AND UNABLE TO SOCIALLY DISTANCE, especially INDOORS (unless you're a very young child or have a medical condition that prohibits it), because a decent percentage of people don't show symptoms but are still extremely contagious.

                  Here masking-up is required and not doing so creates your first offense at $100, your second offense is $250, and any subsequent offenses are $500 per infraction.

                  Businesses serving the public are requiring their employees to mask-up at all times of face fines/closure.

                  Nobody is whining about their "freedom" around here (SF Bay Area), and most everyone understands and supports the measures towards the common good.

                  It's not rocket science, it's SIMPLE!

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                  • #24
                    DJD100
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2018
                    • 534

                    Originally posted by therealnickb
                    If I’m not sick, not coughing, not sneezing and 6 feet from you, what ridiculous tiny chance do you have of contracting a disease from me?

                    My rocket science says nada.
                    Indoors with limited air circulation, a very decent chance if you're talking, and especially if you're yelling or screaming! The virus is expelled via talking, yelling, singing, or screaming as aerosols. This is why Bars and Churches are dangerous, and why live music is dead for the foreseeable future.

                    Droplets and Aerosols in the Transmission of SARS-CoV-2

                    Anfinrud et al. now illustrate in the Journal how liquid droplets exhaled during speech can linger in the air. The large particles to which they refer remain airborne only briefly before settling because of gravity; these particles may pose a threat of infection if they are inhaled by persons close by as well as a contact hazard if they are transferred to another person’s nasal or oral passages. In this way, persons infected with severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) may contribute to the spread of the infection.

                    Breathing and talking also produce smaller and much more numerous particles, known as aerosol particles, than those visualized in the laser experiment of Anfinrud and colleagues.2-4 Certain persons called “super spreaders” produce many more aerosol particles than other persons. The diameters of these particles are in the micron range. These particles are too small to settle because of gravity, but they are carried by air currents and dispersed by diffusion and air turbulence.

                    Inhaled droplets and aerosol particles have different sites of deposition in the recipient. Inhaled droplets are deposited in the upper regions of the respiratory tract, from which they may be removed in nasal secretions or carried upward by the mucociliary escalator, to be expelled or swallowed. In contrast, inhaled aerosolized particles can penetrate to the depths of the lungs, where they may be deposited in the alveoli.

                    A recent study, the results of which were also published in the Journal, showed that experimentally produced aerosols containing SARS-CoV-2 virions remained infectious in tissue-culture assays, with only a slight reduction in infectivity during a 3-hour period of observation.5 Aerosols from infected persons may therefore pose an inhalation threat even at considerable distances and in enclosed spaces, particularly if there is poor ventilation. The possible contribution of infective aerosols to the current pandemic suggests the advisability of wearing a suitable mask whenever it is thought that infected persons may be nearby and of providing adequate ventilation of enclosed spaces where such persons are known to be or may recently have been.


                    Matthew Meselson, Ph.D.
                    Harvard University, Cambridge, MA
                    Last edited by DJD100; 08-07-2020, 10:46 PM.

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                    • #25
                      Bralowe
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Aug 2014
                      • 734

                      Originally posted by duenor
                      There's a lot of anger about that in Japan right now. The government pushed reopeng way too hard and encouraged people to get back to "normal" way to quickly. Not so different from how CA did a pretty good job and then screwed it up. Protests of course did not help either.

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                      • #26
                        duenor
                        Vendor/Retailer
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 4617

                        well they have a little over 1/3rd our population at 130million people and yet only 1042 deaths compared to our 163,000, so..

                        yeah, I'd say the masks helped.

                        the anger in japan isn't that their government completely screwed up and continued screwing up like ours is, the anger is that they had something like single digit deaths a day for a good while - until the govt decided to forcefully advocate for a return to "normalcy".
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                        • #27
                          Bralowe
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Aug 2014
                          • 734

                          Originally posted by duenor
                          well they have a little over 1/3rd our population at 130million people and yet only 1042 deaths compared to our 163,000, so..

                          yeah, I'd say the masks helped.

                          the anger in japan isn't that their government completely screwed up and continued screwing up like ours is, the anger is that they had something like single digit deaths a day for a good while - until the govt decided to forcefully advocate for a return to "normalcy".
                          They all wear masks! How do explain this?

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                          • #28
                            sd_shooter
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 13657

                            Originally posted by DJD100
                            You can't be serious can you?

                            Ok, just in case you are serious, it's because the so called "healthy" may be pre-symptomatic/asymptomatic, and if they are they'e spreading this unprecedentedly contagious virus unknowingly, so by extension they're quite possibly causing someone's death sentence by result. Yeah, you'd hate to have that on your conscious wouldn't you?

                            How do you know you don't have it, are you tested everyday like Trump?

                            EVERYONE should MASK-UP WHEN IN PUBLIC AND UNABLE TO SOCIALLY DISTANCE, especially INDOORS (unless you're a very young child or have a medical condition that prohibits it), because a decent percentage of people don't show symptoms but are still extremely contagious.

                            Here masking-up is required and not doing so creates your first offense at $100, your second offense is $250, and any subsequent offenses are $500 per infraction.

                            Businesses serving the public are requiring their employees to mask-up at all times or face fines/closure.

                            Nobody is whining about their "freedom" around here (SF Bay Area), and most everyone understands and supports the measures towards the common good.

                            It's not rocket science, it's SIMPLE!
                            I'm dead serious.

                            I haven't been sick this entire year so I'm not spreading covid or anything else to others. I'll wear a mask if I'm required to, eg. Costco or a restaurant (the latter is so silly because people stand by the door for about 30 seconds then sit down and rip it off )

                            The 'asymptomatic carrier' is mostly a theory. Yes, it's possible, but the vast majority of people out there aren't sick. The risk is very small, I don't hang out with sick people and I avoid crowds.

                            I'm not afraid of the covid, the risk is about the same as the Flu and I don't worry about that or any other bug. I naturally distance anyway and I don't engage with strangers. I don't yell and scream either - who does? (Maybe it's a SF thing )

                            So keep wearing your N95, you should be 95% safe regardless of others around you. Right? You must believe that. And if you do there's no reason to be freaking out.

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                            • #29
                              newbutold
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2017
                              • 1952

                              A rapid drop in cases is good news
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                              • #30
                                DJD100
                                Senior Member
                                • Apr 2018
                                • 534

                                Originally posted by sd_shooter
                                I'm dead serious.

                                I haven't been sick this entire year so I'm not spreading covid or anything else to others. I'll wear a mask if I'm required to, eg. Costco or a restaurant (the latter is so silly because people stand by the door for about 30 seconds then sit down and rip it off )

                                The 'asymptomatic carrier' is mostly a theory. Yes, it's possible, but the vast majority of people out there aren't sick. The risk is very small, I don't hang out with sick people and I avoid crowds.

                                I'm not afraid of the covid, the risk is about the same as the Flu and I don't worry about that or any other bug. I naturally distance anyway and I don't engage with strangers. I don't yell and scream either - who does? (Maybe it's a SF thing )

                                So keep wearing your N95, you should be 95% safe regardless of others around you. Right? You must believe that. And if you do there's no reason to be freaking out.
                                The "asymptomatic carrier" or "pre-sysptomatic carrier" is indeed fact and a somewhat unique aspect of this unique corona virus (NOT In-FLU-enza etc), and likely responsible for nearly half of the community transmission.

                                Look, I don't wear the N95 very often at all (just visiting the elderly or other high at risk people etc), and when I do "IT'S PRIMARILY FOR OTHER PEOPLE'S SAFETY", which also requires me not getting it and spreading it!

                                The fact is I too hardly wear a mask as I also avoid crowds, and spend most of my out of the house time training German Shepherds in the woods with a couple of people at most, carefully distanced outdoors etc.

                                That said, when UNABLE TO SOCIALLY DISTANCE or INDOORS IN PUBLIC I do mask-up without whining about "muh freedum", and I do it for OTHER PEOPLE as well as myself to reduce community spread (simple!).

                                Singing, Yelling, and Screaming isn't a "SF thing" LOL, though it's quite popular in Bars, Churches, and Concerts etc, which is why they're still restricted.

                                Regarding restaurants, assuming there's ample air circulation indoors or seating is outdoors, and the tables are spaced accordingly that's fine (i.e. "as good as it gets").

                                What in the heck are you arguing about anyways as it sounds as if you're doing the same thing as I am?
                                Last edited by DJD100; 08-08-2020, 10:00 AM.

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